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Response from the Faithful to "DNA Evidence Does Not Support the Book of Mormon Historic Record Claim"

DNA evidence said to utterly refute the Book of Mormon, for the evidence points to Asiatic origins, not Middle Eastern origins of the ancient inhabitants of this continent.  Presents a strong dilemma of faith to those who believe the book to be the Word of God.  Some responses posted here.

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Featuring replies and comments by Sterling D. Allan, Randall Shortridge, Joel Acheson, Brighid Morrigaine, Terry Silva, Mark Thomase, Sid Unrau, Scott Anderson, Joel Skousen, Brighid Morrigaine, Jeff Lindsey, Allen Wyat, Brant Gardner, and others.

Documentation

Video > "DNA vs. the Book of Mormon"
(Broadband) (Dial-up) [Requires RealOne Player]
Streaming video series that compares and contrasts the current research of mainstream science with the history taught in the Book of Mormon regarding the origin of Native Americans.
BookofMormonEvidence.org - Rod Meldrum's DNA Evidences of Book of Mormon Geography DVD
Inside Article > Lamanite Genesis, Genealogy, and Genetics - LDS Apologist Thomas W. Murphy [website] takes a forthright look at the data and its ramifications.

 

Response from the Faithful

Sterling D. Allan

April 27, 2003 -- Date I first watched the DNA documentary.

Having been one who was raised with a second-nature belief in the Book of Mormon as a factual historic document, and having had numerous epiphany spiritual experiences in conjunction with the Book, and having personally discovered many unique evidences in the Book especially relating to Parallel and Chiastic linguistic patterns, and Alphabetics word-number patterns within it, as well as a huge historic/prophetic parallel between Book of Mormon history and the history of the house of Israel from beginning to end, focusing on our day and what lays ahead; and having had even personal spiritual experiences in which I have felt to be in the unseen angelic presence of ancient Book of Mormon personages; and being privy to modern discoveries of North American relics that bear Hebrew religious philosophy; I am not so quick to dismiss the Book of Mormon as a fraud, even though my B.S. in Microbiology and two years of graduate work in Virology and Physiology have given me adequate scientific background to know that the DNA testing is very reliable.

There are too many signatures of angels and of the Holy Spirit of God on the book for me to dismiss it as bogus because of this recent revelation regarding a lack of DNA evidence to support the claim that the Book of Mormon is a factual historic document.

It's not that I'm not being dishonest with myself about the facts when they are presented.  Rather, it is because I also consider spiritual phenomenon to be factual, and I know of many times when science is not always right -- a fact that is borne out by later science.

So rather than base my conclusions on what science is telling me now, I choose to hold out for better science.

Meanwhile, I will say that even if it were indeed shown that the Book of Mormon is a work of inspired fiction struck off by the pen of Joseph Smith, this will not cause me to disregard the Book of Mormon as worthless.  The literary evidences I have personally discovered, as mentioned above, bear strong witness that the book is extraordinary and worthwhile as a book of spiritual guidance.

That said, let me present to you a piece of contemporary archeological evidence for the Book of Mormon and the religion it spurred.  This is something that is overlooked by most scholars.

I draw your attention to the headquarters of the Mormon faith -- Salt Lake City, and the surrounding Wasatch Front.  There are some remarkable unique geographical parallels between this location and the country of Israel.  Both regions sit on a major north-south fault that has pent up potential for a huge quake.  Both are situated near a dead body of water -- the two largest and only such significant bodies of water on earth: the Dead Sea, and the Great Salt Lake.  Both are filled with a river named Jordan, which comes from a large lake: Utah Lake, and the Sea of Galilee.  Both are surrounded by large mountains.  Both are headquarters to a peculiar religious body of people noted by people worldwide -- the Jews and the Mormons.  Both are situated at a crossroads of trade: Salt Lake City is considered the "crossroads of the West."

The notable difference is that the arrangement is North-South in one, while being South-North in the other, which calls to mind the chiastic scripture: "the first shall be last, and the last shall be first."

The prevailing thesis of the GreaterThings.com website I operate is that the Mormons were ordained of God to be his chosen people in these latter days, even as the Jews were chosen to be his peculiar people anciently, and that as the Jews rejected their Messiah on religious grounds, the Mormons are rejecting the Lord on political grounds.

The first shall be last, and the last shall be first.  North, south, south, north.  The grand Chiasm -- manifest right before our noses in the modern archeological setting of the Mormons.

Now there's a double helix for you to think about!

Sterling D. Allan

p.s. The last portion of the documentary in which Pastor Joel Kramer makes an alter call to all Mormons who have been deceived, taints the presentation significantly.  The video loses its objective, professional touch at that point.  It would be much more effective without it.

Joel Acheson

'DNA Evidence' Does not Take into Account that Lehites were Israelites, not Judahites - comment by Joel Acheson with affirmative reply by Randall Shortridge, Ph.D. Molecular Biologist.  (Dr. Shortridge was one of the scientists interviewed in a DNA & BofM Documentary.)

Brighid Morrigaine

Native Americans from Four Winds (DNA Smorgasbord)

Terry Silva

Theories that the Book of Mormon can be proven true or false by using mitochondrial DNA evidence will fail because they are based on a false premise that the Book of Mormon says that all Native Americans are descendants from the Jewish colonists about whom the book is written.

Click here for full text.

Mark Thomase

Native American friend with blood type B illustrates the "rare genetic marker" phenomenon consistent with Israelite lineage.

Click here for full text.

Sid Unrau

Limited Tehuantepec Theory of Book of Mormon Anthropology - "None of the DNA studies have traced the Maya, to my knowledge."

Scott Anderson

Blood type B [see above] "originated on the Tibetan Plateau," and the Tibetans have records of interaction with Jesus and Joseph of Arimathea.

Click here for full text.

Joel Skousen

All genetic stock from Adam and Eve, yet have diverse genetic markers.  "Unless we know the answer to how these leaps in genetics occurred, starting from the same stock, it is totally useless to come to any definitive conclusion (over long time spans) that the absence of a genetic coding factors proves non-relation."

Brighid Morrigaine

Native Americans from Four Winds (DNA Smorgasbord)

Jeff Lindsey

Does DNA Evidence Refute the Book of Mormon? - lengthy treatise with counter documentation and arguments.

Allen Wyat

Review of Murphy's actions and inconsistencies (FAIRLDS.org)

Mel Tungate

DNA and the Book of Mormon - chronology of events.  Tries to maintain a balanced page that includes all perspectives.

Brant Gardner

Tempest in a Tea Pot: DNA Studies and the Book of Mormon - Brant Gardner discussion of some of Murphy's errors in interpreting scientific data (FAIRLDS.org)

Lazy Faith

" 'What I hope comes of it, is that the President of the Church will make a definite decision of who the Lamanites are,' said Steven Clark, president of the Salamander Society, a non-profit organization dedicated to the exhibition of Mormon art and culture."  (The above is the closing statement of BYU NewsNet article: BYU professor refutes Book of Mormon DNA claims)

Note: Please do not think this is quoting in sympathy with its sentiment. This is the epitome of how "just follow the prophet" mentality fosters spiritual laziness.

More Responses

Inviting your response.  I'm especially anxious to get the response of my friends.

Click here for discussion board, to add your comment online.  Or email it to me.

 

See also

Google > "book+of+mormon"+dna
Yahoo > "book+of+mormon"+dna
Index of Book of Mormon Studies at GreaterThings.com
Book of Mormon Links Page

 

Index created by Sterling D. Allan, April 28, 2003.
Last updated August 23, 2008

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