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You are here: Greater Things > Davidic Servant > Musings on a Gentle God and Peers

Musings of a Davidic Servant About a Gentle God and Peers

Sterling's Comment

From: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [888] Why some of you are losers; and I'm not

 

Hi Jordan,

I've had nearly identical to these emotions of which you speak -- several times over the years.

What I find now, though, thanks in large part to discussions here on this list, especially due to the input of Randall, Kieth, Susan, and many others including yourself, is that my view of the 'kick-ass' God of the scriptures has changed quite dramatically.  Indeed, I can't help but think that the 'kick-ass' God described is not a function of God, but of the writers of scripture, whose filters have been taught all these thousands of years that God is going to kick some butt when he gets home.

That was the God of the O.T. (or at least that is how he was perceived at the time) because the people of the O.T. didn't understand any other language than that.  They were children in their progression, and they needed the punitive hand of a loving but stern God to keep them in line.

In these last days, the people of God are no longer children but adults in Christ -- peers, colleagues.  One does not kick a peer's butt.

Yes, there are still people on the planet who are not as mature spiritually, who have some awful consequences coming their way if they do not mend their ways.  This is described in the scriptures as the fury of the Lord, but it is nothing more than them getting what they have coming because they did not reach out for the grace clause presented to them.

Some day in the eternities, they will 'get it.'

I don't feel the same way about the scriptures in Revelation about the mark of the beast that I used to.

It used to be that when I would read these, I would think, "Wow, burning in hell is some awful consequence for taking this beast; why aren't we talking about this in the LDS culture?"

Well, I still believe there is a "beast" element, and that there are awful natural consequences for partaking in a scheme based on coersion rather than freedom, and that our society is headed down a path of facing such consequences painfully.  However, the verbiage just does not do the same thing for me (instill an element of fear) that it used to because of my confidence in a loving God and of the beuty of the human experience(s) that allows each to learn in their lifetime(s) what it is they most need to learn.  Yes, we are in for a big collective lesson.  Great.  Great if we can avert it.  Either way, agency is supreme.  Either way we learn a great deal and when we're done we say, "Whew, I'm glad that's over, but I'm sure glad we were able to experience that."

Likewise, my feelings have changed regarding the scripture in 3 Nephi (and other variations through the scriptures) that talks about people needing to hearken to the voice of the Lord that he imparts through his servant, or they will be cut off from among the people.  We here on this list realize that this is one of the hallmark "Davidic Servant" prophecies.  Many of us here on this list have thought (or continue to think) that this role is ours alone.  I used to think that.  For several years I thought that this prophecy was talking about me.  And several on this list have carried that same burden, and what a burden it is.  Back-breaking it is.  On the one hand, while in this mindset, we realize our inadequacy, but on the other hand we think that God can do whatever he wants; and if he has chosen us, well, that is his business, and somehow he will make us equal to the task. Meanwhile, we turn a lot of people off, scare a lot of people away, do crazy things thinking they are part of our obedience test.

All the while, it turns out that when all is said and done there will be (in my best estimate opinion) 144,000 Davidic Servants, who, by definition of being part of the 144,000 are of the order of "davidic servant" or after the calling of "Christ," overcoming and inheriting as Jesus did, becoming joint heirs, members of the church of the firstborn.

And what is it that these Davidic Servant's have to say that is so earthshaking so that those who hearken are numbered among God's people, while those who do not hearken are 'cut off'?  Basically, the message, in my best estimation (based on study, revelation, mistakes, learning, etc) is that the message is that each person is a child of God and entitled to be personally responsible to God -- a joint heir -- not subservient to some other person [including the 'davidic servant(s)']in order to learn God's will for them.  Of course, part of that message that God will impart to those who listen (whether directly or through the instrumentality of others) is things like "repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."  And what does that mean?  Well, basically it is about aligning one's life with God and his kingdom, which is going to be established on this earth, even as it is in heaven.

That's my take anyway.

Your fellow Davidic Servant,

Sterling D. Allan

 

Jordan's Message (which spurred the above)

----- Original Message -----
From: <twelvestorm1@yahoo.com>
To: <davids_outcasts@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 1:45 PM
Subject: [888] Why some of you are losers; and I'm not

 

what makes me so special?  I'm not better, or smarter, or more righteous than any of you (subscribers to Davids Outcasts)  So am I more "special" than any of you, in any way?

Yep.  The same way a mechanic is "special" to you when you go to have your car fixed.

Just what has been going on, since I joined Davids Outcasts on May 20 of this year, and several times pulled out, only to re-join?

There is a process, anciently prophesied, being emplaced in these latter days, as we approach the Second Coming of Christ, in the clouds, in glory, as when he visited the Nephites (we believers in the Book of Mormon are especially qualified to avoid other alleged Second Comings).

This process is mentioned for example, in the Book of Ezekiel, when the Lord says he will gather his people in the latter days with a stretched out arm, with great fury and zeal.  The book of Isaiah, especially Chapter 11, says it will be quite analogous to the departure from Egypt.

In Ezekiel, the parable of a "rod" is used.  Ancient shepherds used to lay a rod parallel with the ground, and then whistle for the sheep.

Those sheep that refused to BOW DOWN to come under the rod, were then marked and sent to the slaughter.  Their disobedience cost them their lives on earth.

Same with wannabe "Christians" "Jews" and "Latter-Day Saints."

Jesus says clearly in Third Nephi that "the time is not yet, but soon, when whosoever will not hearken to the Only Begotten...will be cut off from among the people."

In those same verses, Jesus applies those verses from Deuteronomy 18 to himself, and the choice seer.  Further, in D&C 101, he implies to Joseph Smith, Jr. that such is a role of any "man like unto Moses." John the Baptist is another example of that.  If you don't give a damn about John the Baptist today, then you are a liar and a thief in the work to establish the government of Jesus Christ on earth.  Same with the Choice Seer.  Notice that Third Nephi does NOT say that you have to hearken to the Choice Seer, or even his words.  But you DO have to hearken to the words he brings forth from Jesus Christ, or you are cut off from among the people.

As Sterling Allan explains eloquently and convincingly, this process applies to more than one serious servant of God besides Jesus Christ, Moses, John the Baptist, the Choice Seer, or the "One Mighty and Strong."

It is an office, a role, fulfilled by way more than one person.

Now, I'm here in the New Jerusalem, Independence, Missouri, Jackson County Missouri, and have lived and worked and studied here for 26 years this month, with relatively brief stints in Utah and Israel.

Are my observations relevant to anyone and everyone who claims to be interested in Zion, as described in the BofM, D&C, and Bible?

Of course. You're deceived by the Evil One, if you think not.

It is Satan who whispers in the ears of all who will hearken to him, that not only is Jesus Christ not Lord of Joseph Smith, who faithfully dedicated this place pointed out by the "voice and finger of the Lord" in August 1831, but that same Satan also whispers to all who will listen that Jordan Smith is also not a servant of that Jesus Christ.  And he also whispers in the ears of many that my Lord Jesus Christ is not Lord.

So, who hearkens to what?

The Book of Mormon says that whosoever will not hearken to those that the Lord sends, his servants and his prophets, which include the likes of me, Jesus E. Moses, Sterling Allan, Randall and Laura Shortridge, and even, yes, Blayne "Hawkiye" Sukut....

will not be accepted "at the last day."

In the New Testament, Jesus several times explains that those who claim to Love Him but who prove by their actions on earth that they don't, will "go into outer darkness, where there is weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth."

I care. That sucks, to see someone in that "left out" state.  We sons and daughters of God are pained, and wish to do WHATEVER we can to forestall, prevent, and rescue our fellow creations from such a state, however temporary or eternal it may be.

And so I go forth, speaking, writing, and acting out the word of God in the eyes of all the people.

For one thing, I'm giving each of you who so much as hear my name, to share my reward from the Most High.  And what I wrote on October 14, 1989 is still true today:

"if you ignore, or deny, or mock me, you sell me your birthright for a bowl of carnal judgement, and I will never give it back."

Actually, that part about "never giving it back" seems kinda harsh to me now, but I have noticed that the God of Israel is pretty stern, pretty cut-and-dried about some things:  He's not Soft On Crime, ultimately.

I have watched, year after year after year, as supposed Christians and Restorationists and latter-day-Saints have "burned" "church" after "church" after "church" of God. Veritable Abortion doctors, flaming and hating and mocking and dismissing and ignoring manifestation after manifestation of the living God's words and works.

See how some subscribers do not respond (or read) anything I write on David's Outcasts? Such I encountered long before January 1, 1990. Such is only typical of the response which I have gotten from the beginning, and the reason God told my ancestor Ezekiel:  "Set your forehead as a flint against this people, thine own relatives, for they are a stiffnecked and hardhearted bunch of rebels."

Okay.

But Ezekiel cared, and I care, and our God of Israel cares.  He has and will give you every opportunity, which you could possibly think possible, so, that as a modern angelic revelation says:

"that they may be without excuse at the last day."

Folks, I'm sorry, but you are all going to get from my God what you're giving to me now. Just like I'm getting from some of you now (nothing) that which I have in the past sought to give your idols (nothing).

I just saw today in Isaiah Chapter 3 a chilling reference to KARMA:

10 Tell the righteous it will be well with them, for they will enjoy the fruit of their deeds.

11 Woe to the wicked! Disaster is upon them! They will be paid back for what their hands have done.

and further:

12 Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. O my people, your guides lead you astray; they turn you from the path.

13 The LORD takes his place in court; he rises to judge the people.

Oh no...God "judges!" --cry the heathen!

Oh good...God "judges!" --cry we poor, and needy, and oppressed, and robbed.

                                 ---Jordan B. Smith

                    real live Priest in the Temple of the Most High

                                    Independence, Missouri

 

Laura's Reply to Sterling

From: "Laura S Shortridge" <lsshortridge@juno.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [888] Why some of you are losers; and I'm not

 

Wow, Sterling... you've come a long way in the past couple of years! It has been interesting to see the changes and growth in cyberfriends and to realize that we're not in a competition or race of any sort. And while some of us share certain commonalities on our "path", each of us is very unique and therefore has a unique perspective.  Thank you for sharing your current views.  As you already know, I no longer  believe in the "kick-ass God" (as you so colorfully put it :) either and it brings such peace to my heart to know that God exemplifies the attributes which He desires/expects us to develop.  And that He loves EACH of us unconditionally regardless of where we are on our path home.

Love always, 
Laura

 

 

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