From: Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda@GreaterThings.com>
To: Davids_outcasts@listbot.com
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Cc: Doc Hansen <silverado@itsnet.com>
Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 10:58 AM
Subject: {888} MULTIPLE MORTAL PROBATIONS
Doc,
In answer to your question,
My take on multiple mortal probations probably stretches the limits of
believability to anyone lingering close to mainstream LDS teachings on the
subject.
I believe that we have oodles (that means lots and lots) of mortal experiences
as human beings (like you suggested); and that yes, eventually we finally get
things right and graduate to Godhood. And even then we still take the
opportunity to put off our exaltation and come down in the flesh to help the
children of men progress (and maybe just to have fun while doing it).
Whether we have multiple experiences on one planet, I do not know -- probably,
but not many. It seems the more advanced one becomes, the less
frequently they come down.
Where I go beyond this is to say that our experiences started as
"Atom" (pronounced like "Adam"). We went from one
experience to another, increasing in intelligence and depth of character.
Progressing beyond existence as a mineral, we experienced the plant kingdom,
progressing through the various forms of life there, through the insect
kingdom, through the animal kingdom, even spending time as an intelligence of
a planet or a sun or a moon, etc. -- sort of a spiritual Darwinism.
So that by the time we become God, we can say that we are "in all things
and through all things" because WE WILL HAVE BEEN ALL THINGS.
Included in that progression would be "time-out" probations
following sons of perdition episodes (so that yes, even the sons of perdition
do not always, forever and ever, stay in that condition, but they too can be
"recycled").
So eventually, however long it takes, however fast or slow, purely dependent
upon the agency of the intelligence, all things will eventually graduate to
Godhood.
What then? What comes after that? After the tipity top level of
Godhood?
My take is that the Supreme Being willingly goes through a sort of cross
between a "big bang" and a disintegration into a gazillion minute
particles called "intelligences," all of which are part of the
original God-being, and which in some undefinable way are still a part of it,
but which now are new creations, each one of which is independent -- the new
intelligences which then progress from the simplest form to the most advanced.
That is why all things are equal in the sight of God, for all things both came
from God and will eventually become God -- whatever stage of development they
are at currently.
So much more could be said, but already I'm speaking far outside the realm of
knowledge and into the realm of casual conjecture.
You asked.
That's my opinion.
Sterling D. Allan
http://www.GreaterThings.com
new scripture word studies
From: Doc Hansen <silverado@itsnet.com>
To: Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda@GreaterThings.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: WHAT'S YOUR SLANT ON MULTIPLE MORTAL PROBATIONS
HOWDY...
Looking at Alma 40....he sure hints alot at the idea of multiple mortal
probations. For years I've been hit with the idea of part of one's experience
of becoming one of the Gods was to be in certain positions like the
prophet....the HG.....a Savior.....
I would think our Heavenly Father wants all of us to be back with him when
it's all said and done. If one smart kid can get a college degree when he's
16....the average when he's 22 or so.....but then there are the slow ones that
take until they are 30......they all take different times to get to their goal
but they all get there. You grow and you learn. But if you learn and pass the
test...you get the reward.
Part of this thinking takes me in another direction to the OT when it talks
in Genesis about in those days their where giants on the earth.....which
translates the sons of God or Nephilium. I always wondered who these embodied
persons were and the learnng they had that gave them advantage over the men of
earth. I think they must be those who have crossed the line of their kingdom
ie: telestial or terrestial and came to earth somehow to mix with the
daughters of Adam and Eve.
The early GA's also give hints as to multiple mortal probations.
DOC
Multiple Mortal Probations
