Ab
and Om -- Reluctances of West vs. East
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 11:57 AM
Subject: Hint 6 and some very personal
reflections
"J J Dewey" <jjd@rmci.net>
asks
> Question:
>
> What must be prepared for a greater
> life before it manifests and what is
> this process of the manifestation of
> a life called? This is the key word
> we are looking for.
Comparing Human
Molecule Formation to Molecule Formation from Atoms
I might just mention that since the comparison is being made between people
and atoms that in asking how people come together to form something bigger and
different from themselves individually, that we look at the process of
chemical reaction for some analogies or metaphors.
In chemistry, two atoms don't usually just bond together without some kind
of "reaction" process. Sometimes external heat must be applied.
Sometimes catalysts must be present.
Even though the eventual union is a more stable state than that of
individuality, there is a 'heat of reaction' that is required to get to that
state.
Using another analogy, one must cross over a mountain to go from one valley
to another.
I would submit that this "human molecule" that you are seeking to
achieve will not just require a willingness and participation of those who
become a part of it, but will also require some external source of
"heat" or a "catalyst," which source I would submit is the
power of God -- speaking of the deity who presides over the affairs of this
planet and those angelic hosts who serve with him/her in a united quorum.
There is yet another analogy that might be drawn here to chemistry, and that
is the phenomenon of chain reaction that takes place in the formation of some
kinds of molecules. Once one of these molecules is formed, it becomes a seed
for other molecules to form as well, until all atoms in vicinity that could
become a part do. But even these reactions usually require the presence of a catalyst.
In this context, I would say that the a good word that approaches the key
word J.J. is looking for regarding what brings this molecule about is
"reaction."
The word "odin" in Greek, which has resemblance to the Scandinavian
name for "God," means, "Pain, sorrow," with
antonym "pleasure, joy, gladness." The pain of bringing forth the
kingdom of God(s) is followed by the fulness of joy that the Father has.
~~~
On the subject of the "song," I must say that I have been duly
impressed by many of the answers and can see that reasonable responses have
been made to the questions I raised.
I still have a hang up with it, though, as it still feels new agey to me,
and you all know how I feel about the New Age pseudo doctrine.
My heart tells me that there is something to this molecular relationship
thing as well as to the idea of the "song" -- whether J.J.'s version
or another that it may be counterfeiting.
We all know that just because something "works" does not mean it
is of God. Satan has power too, and he can give people a pretty good
rush/buzz/thrill. Part of me is wondering if the experiences being related
about the "song" are perhaps of this nature. Yet another part of me
has a hard time attributing the experiences you have related to
"evil," as the intentions seem pure to me.
One of the parts of the "song" that I came across as I was doing
my write up on it and read through J.J.'s archives on the various things he
has had to say about it, was the bit about saying the "oohhms"
before, between the verses, and after the song.
Maybe it is cultural resistance, but I have a hard time finding any
affinity whatsoever to doing "ohm." It is very Eastern and very new
agey in my view -- which view I do not claim to be perfect.
Intellectually, I can see that the word "om" has a profound
Hebrew counterpart, as it is essentially the word for "mother," as
"ab" is the word for "father."
Maybe therein is a huge key. Maybe Christianity is the religion of Father
and the Eastern wisdom is the religion of Mother, and the two are to be
combined. Perhaps that is what happens by doing the "om"
interspersed with the "song": it combines right and left hemispheres
in the meditative/prayer activity.
The word "om" is not in the Greek NT lexicon, but from what I can
gather from the etymology of words beginning with "om," it means
"oneness." For example, the Greek "homos" means "one
and the same."
The vicinity word, "on" (spelled omega, nu) in Greek means
"Being, it refers to existence. It does not, however, refer
to the beginning of that existence. John 1:18 says, 'the only begotten Son,
which was in the bosom of the Father.' What is translated 'which is' is the
present participle 'ho on,' the one being. It means the one who has always
been with the Father; there was not time when that one began to be with the
Father."
I can see all this with my mind and feel in my heart it is true, but there
is still a hang-up somewhere. A deep cultural thing perhaps.
Maybe my hang-up about "om" is similar to the hang-up so many of
you have about Jesus Christ. You just can't stand the idea of praising or
worshipping him, whereas that comes very easy for me. I've got that down. It
comes readily and spontaneously from my heart, for I have been touched by him
big time, many times, throughout my life. And when I see you so resistive to
that, it turns me off. Perhaps my love of Christ (speaking of Jeshua) is what
causes me (thought not justifiably) to react as I do to "om" because
I associate it as being anti-Christ because nearly everyone I know of who
chants "om" does not share my love and adoration for the Savior in a
worshipful sense. This includes my wife, who tends to be more like her mother,
Susan in this regard, who you all know has no problem with all this stuff you
guys are into. She has immersed herself in the new age teachings. She is
converted to the goodness she sees there. She would say her life has been
touched and made better because of it. At least Susan has a relationship with
the Savior as well. Cheri shares a lot of common ground so far as
Christian/Mormon doctrine with me, but I do not detect that she has been
touched by the Savior yet as I have been so many times and as her mother has
been. I don't blame her, because she was repulsed by the Mormon hypocrisy she
witnessed in regards to the way she and her Mother were treated over the years
because of her mom's divorce from a highly abusive and manipulative husband
who appeared on the outside world to be a fine man. The courts and the church
leaders sided with the Dad, causing my wife to be subjected to his
manipulations and fear/control tactics.
Our 50-plus-hours long labor was caused emotionally by Cheri's resistance
to bringing a child into a world she had experienced as being a dangerous
place to be.
Having her as my best friend and companion has been a wonderful thing in
the short time we have been together. We got engaged a year ago on Valentine's
day.
She sides with me on many points as I have been struggling through this
thing with J.J. and the keys of knowledge list. She tends, though, perhaps to
her credit, to be more enamored by J.J.'s writings, like her Mom. If it were
not for her, I probably would not be on this list anymore.
Oprah said something that struck me yesterday while interviewing Gary Zukov.
She said (or maybe it was him) that our enemies can be the best teachers in
our lives, for it is through our conflict with them that we learn the most.
I certainly have been learning a great deal through the conflict I've been
having here, and I would dare say that you have benefited as well because of
the interactions I've had with J.J. through this list, even though your
patience wears thin at times. You say, "let's get on with the
teaching," when you need to realize that you are in the middle of a great
lesson.
I view many of you in your ideology as being anti-Christ, and you view me
as being stuck in a backward religious paradigm, when in reality, what may be
happening here is that both of us are wrong and both of us are right. You need
Jesus, and I need "om." My wife has a healthy mixture of both,
thanks to her mom.
~~~~~
One final thing for me to get off my chest here.
For a couple of weeks or more, I have been subscribing to a "quote a
day" from the Blavatsky site. I wanted to see what kind of things her
post-mortem followers would select to share with the world. I must say that I
have been deeply disturbed by nearly every single one of them, as they are
archetypal anti-Christ, anti-Christianity, anti-Judaism, redefining these as
being copies of paganism, making the later the preferable, turning 180 degrees
the truths I have had emblazoned on my soul by the Spirit of God.
You will recall that I posted a write-up on my investigation into the
teachings of Blavatsky and illustrated with her own words the above points.
http://www.greaterthings.com/Topical/Blavatsky.htm
This is of great concern to me because J.J. has made her out to be such a
venerable source of wisdom and able spokesman for the cause of truth.
Yes, he backpedaled when I wrote what I did exposing so blatantly her
teachings. He said that he had not read all of her writings, implying that he
had not seen what I had come across, and implying (or allowing for the
implication) that he agreed with my disagreement with her on these fundamental
points.
However, after receiving these quotes one a day from the Blavatsky site, I
cannot fathom how J.J. ever found her writings to be worthy of consideration.
They are Satanic in the purest sense of the word.
Hence another reason for me to hold back in feeling like I want to be part
of J.J.'s molecule. He may be catalyzing the formation of a molecule all
right, but under the direction of which god?
[see J.J.'s response to the above concern]
But then he posts something like he did yesterday about the nations of the
earth and their primary and secondary Israelite tribal identities, and I just
sit back and say, "Wow."
Sterling
Meaning of 'Om/Ohm'
From: "John Wayne Kline" <jkline@usmo.com>
To: "The Keys of Knowledge List" <keys-l@spiritweb.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 2:38 PM
Subject: [keys-l] AUM and OM
I probably shouldn't do this as JJ stated so time ago that he would go into
greater detail about AUM, and OM at a later date.
I present this only as my understanding at this point in time. At a future
time I may gain a more enlightened understanding. This is the basic teaching
of the Ancient Tibetan, and Northern India Schools of thought.
AUM is a three letter anagram which represents
A has a numerical value of 1. It represents Shiva, the Father, the
preserver, the Creator, the Principle from which all things are derived.
Pronounced as AHHH in A Natural.
U has the numerical value of 3, the triune expression of form, the Body,
Mind, and Soul in One - the Living Son. Pronounced ow as in Cow, and oooo
broom, or zoom. When properly pronounced there is a drum or gong like effect
as an undertone.
M has the numerical value 4, and represents the square, the Spirit Bhrama.
It is the Spirit which pervades all Matter. It is pronounced through the left
nostril, with the lips together, and a slight opening on the left side. The M
is created with a humming vibration.
The numerical value of AUM is 8, AHHH OW OOO MMMM Think of it on a 1, 3 , 4
scale. The A is for a count of one, the owoo for a count of three, and the M
for a count of four. AUM and OM have a vibration of 144, and are sung in D
natural one octave below middle C. The proper pronunciation of the Word
results in the manifestation of a White Light which can be easily discerned by
the sensitive, and at times even by those that are not unusually sensitive.
It takes a lot of practice to get it right, but when you do, you'll know it
immediately.
Now for OM, among the Tibetans, and Indians it is considered a totally
different thing from AUM. The O represents the Universe, the endless expanse
of Space, the Immortality of Life, without beginning or end. When placed in
any word it gives the above quality to that word.
M indicates a soothing, maturing, passive power of the feminine nature. So
OM represents Immortality, and the Maturing Mother Element of the Womb. The
soothing and protective peace and awareness of Immortality.
Om is also pronounced in D Natural, one octave below middle C, and has a
vibratory rate of 144, on the music scale. In the Ancient Eastern Cultures the
Vowel Sounds were considered the language of the Soul.
Some vowel sounds are used for the awakening of certain centers of mystical
perception in the Consciousness of Man.
Some vowel sounds are for enlivening certain dormant centers of brain
functioning.
Some vowel sounds are for stirring into Action certain Vibrations
surrounding us in our Auras.
Some vowel sounds are used to bring together certain forces in our
immediate presence.
The seven vowel sounds are: A, E, I, O, U the remaining two are AH and UEH.
The seven sounds are always used in sacred ceremonies, but only the first
five are used in other ceremonies. The Healing Ceremony is one of the Sacred.
Hope this helps,
In Light, Love, and Power
Your Friend, John
"Amen"
in the Liturgy
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 5:01 AM
Subject: [keys-l] AMEN
Amen
The word Amen is one of a small number of Hebrew words which have been
imported unchanged into the liturgy of the Church, propter sanctiorem as St.
Augustine expresses it, in virtue of an exceptionally sacred example. "So
frequent was this Hebrew word in the mouth of Our Saviour", observes the
Catechism of the Council of Trent,"that it pleased the Holy Ghost to have
it perpetuated in the Church of God". In point of fact St. Matthew
attributes it to Our Lord twenty-eight times, and St. John in its doubled form
twenty-six times.
As regards the etymology, Amen is a derivative from the Hebrew verb aman
"to strengthen" or "Confirm".
The word Amen occurs not infrequently in early Christian inscriptions, and
that it was often introduced into anathemas and gnostic spells. Moreover, as
the Greek letters which form Amen according to their numerical values total 99
(alpha=1, mu=40, epsilon=8, nu=50), this number often appears in inscriptions,
especially of Egyptian origin, and a sort of magical efficacy seems to have
been attributed to its symbol. It should also be mentioned that the word Amen
is still employed in the ritual both of Jews and Mohammedans.
Christopher Wynter
"Om" in
Hinduism
From: Christopher
Wynter
To: The
Keys of Knowledge List
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 5:12 AM
Subject: [keys-l] OM
In Hinduism and other religions chiefly of India, OM is sacred syllable
that is considered to be the greatest of all the mantras, or sacred formulas.
The syllable Om is composed of the three sounds a-u-m
(in Sanskrit, the vowels a and u coalesce to become o),
which represent three important triads: the three worlds of earth, atmosphere,
and heaven; the three major Hindu gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva; and
the three sacred Vedic scriptures, Rg, Yajur, and Sama.
Thus Om mystically embodies the essence of the entire universe.
It is uttered at the beginning and end of Hindu prayers, chants, and
meditation and is freely used in Buddhist and Jaina ritual also.
From the 6th century, the written symbol designating the sound is used to
mark the beginning of a text in a manuscript or an inscription. The syllable
is discussed in a number of the Upanishads, which are the texts of
philosophical speculation, and it forms the entire subject matter of one, the Mandukya.
It is used in the practice of Yoga and is related to techniques of auditory
meditation.
In the Puranas the syllable is put to sectarian use; thus the
Saiva mark the lingam, or sign of Shiva, with the symbol for Om,
whereas the Vaishnava identify the three sounds as referring to a trinity
composed of Vishnu, his wife Shri, and the worshiper.
Christopher Wynter
"Amen"
in the Hebrew and Greek
I would agree that the Western "amen" has a similar etymological
root as the Eastern "ohm/om."
Think of how many Christian hymnals end theirs songs with a chorus of
amen(s). Handel's "Messiah" has and entire song at the conclusion of
his oratorio which is nothing but Amens.
The Greek "amen" is a transliteration of the Hebrew word that
means "(1) Firm, faithful; faithfulness, fidelity; (2) truly,
verily." It is tranlasted into English from the Greek as "verily,
verily" when it is used in tandem.
Another word in Hebrew with the same letter spelling but different vowel
pronunciation means, (1) to prop, to stay, to sustain, to support (a) to
support with the arm, to carry a child; one who carries and cares for a child;
also, one who guards and brings up; to sustain, to nourich; nurse; (b) to
found, bo build up; hence architect, workman, column; (2) to be stayed up;
hence to be firm, unshaken, such as one may safely lean on; faithful; [4] to
be of long continuance, perennial; [5] upright; [6] sure, certain; [7] to
trust, to confide in; [8] to believe; [9] to stand firm, still."
Looking at the Hebrew letters that spell AMN, the A stands for God, the M
stands for "hidden Messiah," the N stands for messenger (there are
many other meanings of each of these letters). So the combined meaning of the
word is "the messenger of the hidden Messiah/God," which certainly
could be an illusion to the idea of the God that is latent in everyone,
waiting to be expressed, like the DNA of a person. The combined meanings of
the letters might also be construed to mean that saying "amen" is a
means of communing "messenger" with the hidden Messiah/God.
The word after "amen" in Greek is "ametor,"
"Without the record of a mother. This is predicated of the king-priest
Melchizedek." The commentary reads, "Melchizedek appears and
disappears suddenly. Nothing is said about his birth or death, ancestry or
descent, which declares his superiority to Abraham . . . "
The word before "amen" in Greek is "ametros,"
"Without measure." The commentary talks about how the work of God is
"without measure" and that no one can boast about how much he has
accomplished for there is so much to do -- and, I would add, it will be
accomplished by so many working together; hence I would suggest that this
vicinity association of these words is a commentary on an aspect of
"firmness" and "stability," and that is the need for
recognizing that none of us are in this alone, nor can we accomplish our
divine missions alone, but that we are meant to work as a team, as an "Elohim,"
-- plural for the quorum of God -- in J.J.'s vernacular, the "molecular
relationship."
Sterling
The Meaning
in the Letters of Ohm/Omn
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:58 PM
Subject: [keys-l] (OT) More on AUM and OM
I've been thinking, OK you can stop laughing now! Really, I was just reading
the posts, and this subject just keeps coming back into my mind.
It's been well over twenty years since I studied Kabala, but things just
keep flashing back into my mind. We've discussed the AUM and OM and broken
them down into their individual symbolic parts, but I left N out of the
equation in my earlier post.
In the Kabala and Sanskrit N denotes the earth. For instance there are many
definitions of of the word Aryan which comes from the Sanskrit root Arya. The
authors of the Upanishads and later writings defined it as meaning Noble. This
is because they believed they were of the Royal Bloodline of the Elohim
themselves of Ancient times. The Egyptians of the higher class believed the
same about themselves. Kabala with a K usually denotes the Egyptian Schools,
and with a C, Cabala usually denotes the Hebraic Schools, and their off
shoots.
Sanskrit is a strange language to understand. Roots are added to roots and
the words become larger, as the concept they are describing grows. Sh in
Sanskrit can in many cases equate to the A in other languages, including the
symbolic language of the Kabala. In both Sanskrit, and the Hebrew Kabala, N
denotes, of the earth, so we say Aryan, or the Aryan Race, where Arya itself
denotes something of a more Spiritual nature. When we add the N, we anchor it
to earth.
MAN - If we say that the M is the Mother, the Womb of Creation, the
Maturing, Passive, yet Protective Element, and A is AH the Stellar Influence,
purely Masculine in Nature, and projective like rays of Light, then we have
the marriage or Union of Feminine, with the Masculine within her. The Male is
projective and attempts to travel in a straight line, but the Feminine, is
attractive, magnetic and bends the masculine into a circle. Think of the Sun
sitting in the middle of our Solar system as being male, and the planets and
space as being feminine.
MA was a Sacred Symbol, and powerful Mantra in Ancient Times because of
this, and used in many Mystical rites. If we simply add N to MA we have man,
and have now anchored what I described above to earth. One thing we have to
remember is that there are two M's. One is the Mother as I have described and
the other is M meaning MAN or Mankind. The pronunciations are totally
different as are their meanings. Take the Mantra MATHREM for instance. The
first M is the Mother, but the last is Man, or Mankind.
In both AUM and OM the M denotes the Mother aspect in most cases. If we add
N to the end we have AUM'N. The AUM is the Sacred Name of God to those of
Ancient India, and denoted the ALL of existence. When the N is added this
concept is anchored to earth or Brought Down. A link is formed.
When I think of AUM I tend to feel a Consciousness of the Earth and all it
contains including the Race of Man, but when I use the OM I feel like my
consciousness is expanding through Galaxies to Infinity. When I add the N to
AUM, as AUM'N I feel as though my consciousness is snapped back into my body.
I tried the same thing with OM and the effect was even stronger.
These are only my own personal observations, you will have to experiment
yourself and see what effect you get.
In Light, Love, and Power
Your Friend,
John
Mending Errors of
East and West
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [888] Fw: Hint 6 and some very
personal reflections
Sterling, these are good reflections, and I think three points are worth
making: (1) Let JJ Dewey play himself out and give what God meant his life to
give you without too much of a contest so he is free to reveal his true heart
(if we can detect it, and I know your confrontations can also reveal his
heart), and (2) I think our "take" on Christianity is based on a lot
of traditional garbage and twisted English definitions that don't adequately
deal with many of life's deeper insights. (3) I think that the upshot of this
exercise is going to bring Christianity into better focus without having to
give up Christ but to understand that we have a lot more personal
responsibility involved than claimed by the mainstream. (For example, we are
saved by grace but we really save ourselves as God does us the favor of
showing us the dragon within.) Along with this will be a redefinition of
Lucifer, the Light-bringer. In other words, the views of Christians and New
Agers are both wrong in many ways, and as you suggest, the conflict between
them may bring out the best of both for the truth seekers and the worst of
both for the prideful. Thanks for the great insights. --David
