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You are here: Greater Things > God > Face to Face > Part III: Believing as a Child

For Beholding the Face of God -- Believing as a Child

The following is the third in a series that is indexed at "Seeing God Face to Face."  See part Ipart II

 

bullet Jon Hess on 'Believe as a Child'

From: "Jon Hess" <jon_hess@albertsons.com>
To: "Sterling D. Allan (E-mail)" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
Cc: "Keith Thomas (E-mail)" <Keith.Thomas@pacificorp.com>; "Bruce Haycock (E-mail)" <Bruce.Haycock@THIOKOL.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:50 PM
Subject: More on meeting God

Jon Hess' Epiphany sounds a little unreachable and beyond the ability of ordinary people to attain; so,  I would be more comfortable with the  phrase "when Jon finally became like a little child and simply believed".  What does it take to get to that point?  Unless a child has been told that they can't see God (and I will always mean, "face to face"), or walk and talk with Jesus or the Father, they know they can do it.  We have all seen this in a child's eyes.  So, how do we get back to that childlike belief?  I can't answer that for each of you--only for myself.  I can tell you what it took for me to struggle and wrestle to that point and some of the ideas that held me back, and some of the ideas that propelled me forward.  My only purpose is to touch the child hidden inside you and invite and entice that child forward to simple belief--to a simple belief that is outside the complexities of ritual, ordinance, ecclesia, churches, books, language, numerology, knowledge, tradition, and public and private acceptance.  My whole purpose in seeking to see Jesus and the Father was to observe for myself what They are really like and how They behave; and then, to be like them.   Seeing and observing, which in my adult mind seemed impossible, when viewed as a child, is simple and easy; being like Them and emulating Their behavior is much more difficult.  In fact, it is the most difficult challenge I have ever attempted or that I have ever even conceived of.

For me, to become like a little child so that I could meet Jesus and the Father, required total rejection by family, friends, and church,.  I had to lose my job.  I had to lose everything I depended on to sustain me and give me acceptance and approval.  Why?  I don't believe at all that this is a necessity for anyone else; However, for me, it was because I ingeniously placed all of these things between myself and an actual meeting with Jesus or the Father.  Ask yourself, "What am I placing between myself and Jesus or the Father?"  We are very inventive at this.  I worked very hard to support my family-at one point holding two full time jobs, and getting overtime on one of them.  I had a large family with eight children and a wife to support.  I commuted two hours a day.  I was active in the Church of Jesus Christ, was a High Councilor and Gospel Doctrine Teacher, did genealogy research, attended the Temple frequently, did home teaching, assisted other people, helped my children with homework, and added 2300 feet of living space onto a small farmhouse that my wife and I purchased.  I studied New Testament Greek and Old Testament Hebrew and I read all of the church histories and doctrinal commentaries I could buy or borrow.  I don't consider myself exceptionally gifted intellectually; but, I was a genius at finding things to place between myself and the meeting I desired with God. 

Meanwhile, I was asking God if I could meet with him and promising to let go of anything that was in the way,  I didn't know what was in the way; I couldn't see anything; but, there were no fruits to my labors--so to speak. Soon, however, the things that I was placing between God and myself were wrenched away.   A friend of mine betrayed me and was accused by my stake president.  The stake president lied about the circumstances and I stood up to him and told the truth.  The result was that he disfellowshipped me for apostasy and rebellion to buttress his lies and warn others to not associate with me or assist me in any way.  I contacted the area president; but he would not believe me.  The priesthood path of church was closed to me.  The temples of the church were closed to me.  I could not participate in church meetings, and I couldn't hold any church offices.  Some of my close family members, friends, and acquaintances denounced me and disassociated themselves from me.  The buyers for my house, also close friends, withdrew their offer.  I suppose, that the stake president, considered me very dangerous, and so, he announced the results of the disciplinary action to the entire stake and warned the membership against listening to me or associating with me in any way.  As time went on, and as I pursued a meeting with God, even my wife turned away from me. I felt completely abandoned by my former friends, my family, and the church. 

Shortly thereafter, I found myself in Houston for a seminar.  With no one to turn to, I knelt in prayer in my hotel room and asked our Father in Heaven if he would forgive me.  He answered, "Yes".  I was greatly surprised.  I had never received so direct an answer from our Father in Heaven to my direct questions.  I said, "Are you really there?" And he answered, "I have always been here; you just weren't listening".  Can you imagine my joy.  I have asked God a question; and he answered me.  Can you imagine my chagrin when I realized that probably no one was going to believe me!  And so began my listening, questioning and being questioned, and answering and being answered-concerning anything about which I was curious.  So, what did I yet lack to meet God?  I thought that the answer might lie in repentance.

If you will take the time to review an article on repentance by Theodore M. Burton in the August, 1988 issue of the Ensign, you will find that he (Theodore) started down Jesus' path to the thoughts and intent in God's heart which is marked by a peculiar meaning of the English word for repentance in Hebrew and Greek.  I went down this same path when I found myself disfellowshipped from the church (Mormon) for apostasy and rebellion. This article was like an invitation to me from Jesus to "turn" from my path, to "turn" from my goals and purposes, and to simply "turn" to Him and talk to Him "face to face", "as one man 'talks' to another".  As Burton points out, the present day meaning of repentance derives from the Latin meaning for penance-or the idea that we must perform a step by step ritual to obtain forgiveness from God and the church.  The extreme of this can be found in the popular passion plays where a person volunteers to take the place of Jesus on the step by step path to Calvary and may indeed reenact the crucifixion by being literally nailed to a cross.   The original meaning of this word can be found in the Hebrew word "shube" or the root "shuv" which precisely means to turn from your path and intent to God-literally face to face!  Like Isaiah stated, "We have all like sheep gone astray ('turning' our backs to God's face, not wanting to look at Him), each after our own path after our own reward".  Isaiah quotes God, "Turn (shuv) to me and save yourselves".  You see, we turn (shuv) to Him and come to Him at the Gate. He is the Gate and He employs no servant there.  And, He is the only way to the Father.

For me the priesthood, temple, and church path to God was closed.  I would not then, nor will I now, lie to gain acceptance and fellowship;  so, when we "turn" to Him then, what do we expect?  In all of the translations of the Book of Isaiah 1:12, both Jewish and Christian, the translators translate the verse as, "When you come to see me" or, "When you come to appear before me".  In the Sinai Codex, the Hebrew reads, "when you come to see my face"! Not many people know that Jacob wrestled with Elohim and that the writer chose the verb "wrestle" because during the embrace and struggle with Elohim, dust was raised around them that is the Shekinah or dust particles of light that surrounds God.  Jacob names the place Peniel because he says, "I saw Elohim face to face and my soul was spared"!  Other statements by God in Isaiah also invited and enticed me to believe that an ordinary man could meet God.  He says in Isaiah, "I will answer before you even ask"; and, "Your teacher will remain hidden no longer"; and further, "I will be right behind you (on the path) should you turn right or left".

So, the invitation of Jesus and the Father to each one of the Father's children, is to "turn" (shuv) to them, and come to them on Their path.  The promise of Jesus in the Fourteenth chapter of John is true!  "The Father and I will visit you and make our abode with you"!  Joseph Smith invited each person to drink from the Source themselves, "Just ask, and believe with nothing doubting".  And since the time of that invitation, how many souls have even believed Jesus and Joseph, turned (shuv) to God, drank from the Source, and talked to God face to face?  Why not?  Ask yourselves if what you are doing and placing between you and God is what you really want.

The things Jesus and our Father in Heaven have asked me to let go of have always required that I turn to Them from the thing that I was holding on to. Especially ideas that I have always believed in.  Soon after my experience in Houston, I was sitting in my dad's kitchen.  Jesus came into the room.  I couldn't see him; but I knew him instantly.  He filled the room with his love.  He asked me, "Jon, are you going to die?"  It was as if I were a little child again, in junior Sunday School, I knew he already knew everything about me; but, I wanted to answer him the best I could.  So, I said, "Yes, everyone I've ever known has died"  He continued questioning me, "Do you know anyone who hasn't died?"  I thought, "Yes, your disciple John" He asked again, "Do you know anyone else?". Again I thought, "The three Nephites". He asked again, "Anyone else?".  Again I replied, "Moses and Elijah?" He asked again, "Anyone else?".  Now I was really thinking; then I remembered and replied, "All of the people in the City of Enoch!"  Then Jesus told me to get my dad's New Testament and read in the Book of John where He came to Lazarus' tomb.  I went and got it and started reading. When Jesus came to Lazarus' tomb, Martha came out to meet him and said to Him, "Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died."  Jesus said, "Thy brother shall rise again."  Martha continued, "I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day."  "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:"  And then I read the next sentence, "And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"   When I read that line, I exclaimed, "Where did that come from; I've never seen that passage before"  Then, Jesus asked me, "Jon, do you believe in me?"  I quickly answered, "Yes, I am going to believe in you"  It was another one of those "turn arounds" of 180 degrees; as I looked up from the text, I could see Jesus and He was laughing at my sudden "turning" from an absolute belief in Death to an equally absolute belief in Life.

Some years later, the former friend who betrayed me, was reinstated in the church.  I was sitting in a Sunday School class just after I had heard the news.  I was angry with our Father in Heaven and was complaining to Him, "This man lied to be reinstated in the church; he conforms to the conformity of the church just to get back in; while I stand up for the truth and am still getting beaten and spit on by the church, my wife, my family, neighbors, and former friends. Why?"  Our Father in Heaven answered, saying, "But, you found me didn't you?"  I agreed; but I was still not mollified. Then, our Father in Heaven showed to me something like a waking dream right in the second row of the Sunday School class.  I saw a large beautiful fountain of crystal clear water flowing freely from the earth.  The water was extremely clean and pure--I could see clear to the bottom of the wide river that was formed.  I was very thirsty; and I approached the water and drank.  I was immediately filled with the love of God; and I knew these were the Waters of Life--that are free and without cost.  I was filled with happiness and love.  I looked to where the waters were flowing and saw a large herd of cattle in the river; and as quickly as I looked, I was with them.  There were two herds--a herd of bulls was upstream from the rest of the herd which consisted of bulls, cows, heifers, and calves.  I was with the cattle downstream from the bulls; and I was thirsty again.  But, when I looked down at the water that was swirling around my legs; I could see only small patches of clean and pure water.  I looked upstream and saw that the herd of bulls was churning up sand and silt--they were doing what cattle do when they stand in the middle of a stream--depositing wastes into the water. The cattle downstream were moving back and forth--looking for clean patches of water.  I remembered the fountain of Living Water and headed for the stream bank.  As I climbed out of the stream, the other cattle called to me, "Come back.  Where are you going?"  I replied, "I am going up to the Source--the water is clean and pure there"  Then, the herd of bulls saw me and bellowed, "Get back in the herd; the water must pass through us; you must only drink the water that passes through us; you will be deceived and lost"  I continued back up to the Source and drank the refreshing water again.  I was careful not to pollute the water or stir up any silt.  I looked at the herd of bulls again--they were all facing downstream--away from the source.  All they had to do was turn and drink pure water; but they didn't seem to notice the Source.  I called out, "Come up to the Source where the water is clean"  But, no one would listen or respond.

Jesus repeatedly asks me to let my light shine and to help me understand the idea of placing my light on a table and lighting the whole house, He told me a parable.  It was a familiar story; but, with a new twist.  This is how Jesus told me the Parable of the Lost Coin:  "A woman found a precious coin--which she cherished.  She rejoiced in the coin and showed it to all of her family and friends.  Then, she lost it.  She could not find it.  She looked everywhere to no avail.  Finally, she set her mind to the task; and began to clean out her house.  She even moved the furniture outside; to better sweep.  She swept and cleaned;  all the while looking for the coin. She looked in every nook and crevice; she just knew she could find the coin. Then, one day, after much labor on her part; she found the precious coin. Again, as at the first, she rejoiced exceedingly; and with great happiness she called her family, neighbors and friends around her to see the coin and share her joy."  Then, Jesus said to me, "Jon, do you understand the meaning of the parable?"  I said to him, "Tell me".  He explained to me that I was the woman; and that when I was seven years old, I found the Kingdom of Heaven within; but, that I lost it and became unbelieving.  Yet, I knew the value of the coin; and searched and cleaned my own house until I found the coin again.  Then, I rejoiced in that which I had; then lost; then found again.  "The parable is especially for you Jon" He said, "Do you like it?" "Very, very much,"  I said, "Thank you."

Certainly, I have encountered ridicule and scorn for relating my experiences with Jesus and the Father.  However, I have also received the peace that They give to me. I am going to close by telling you the story of the prodigal son as related to me by Jesus. I love the story and in it the Savior describes my own condition perfectly.

Jesus began the story by including me in the scenes that He caused to pass through my remembrance.  I was the prodigal son.  I saw myself dissatisfied with my circumstance at home.  I wanted my inheritance to enable me to leave home and seek my own fortune.  My Father willingly gave me my inheritance and I left.  I lost it all and was reduced to starvation and gleaning what the pigs refused for my sustenance.  In my dire straits, Jesus showed to me my musings-thoughts of a warm home and plentiful food and clothing.  I remembered that the servants in my Father's house had it better than I.  I quickly determined that I would return home and beg to be one of my Father's servants.  And being extremely hungry-on the very edge of death-I made my way towards home.  My Father had been watching for me all this time.  He never ceased to watch and hope that I would return.  Jesus showed to me His great joy when He saw me in the distance walking towards home.  As soon as He saw me, He ran across the fields and with great tears in His eyes He hugged me and kissed me. 

Retelling this experience is good for me; and it is a good way to end.  The only difficulties you will encounter in meeting God will be invented by you. And when you believe you can, nothing doubting, They will come to you and visit you, and you will realize that it is as easy as falling off a log.

Jon
 

 

bullet Sterling's Follow-up Comment

Amen to that, Jon.  I look forward to having this experience myself -- many times.  I hope many others will too.

Thanks for your words, they have helped increase that childlike faith in me.

We'll look forward to hearing more from you.  I've created an index to begin hosting various of your experiences and comments.

Sterling
March 20, 2001

 

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