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Reciprocally Violent
No Higher Moral Ground in Core Dogmas


Muslims, Christians, Jews all have violent dogmas that are contrary to the highest essence of their religion.

A tit-for-tat response to those who berate Islam as a murderous religion in its essence.

Page Contents:
Overview Parallel Comparisons Christianity and Violent Christians Judaism and Violent Jews Islam and Violent Muslims True Essence of Religion is to Sue for Harmony See also

I am not opposed to Christianity in its pure essence. I'm saying that Christians are hypocritical to condemn the Koran's teachings on violence, because the same sort of teachings are found in the Bible. Read the article, not just the title.

-- Sterling D. Allan


"True Christianity is a Demonic deceitful evil murderous religion"

From: "Sterling D. Allan" <>
Date: Mon Oct 29, 2001 8:11 am
Subject: True Christianity is a Demonic deceitful evil murderous religion

True Islam is not more murderous and demonic in its essence than Christianity.

Using kirkz' line of logic, one could easily make the same statements about how murderous and demonic Christianity is. I've seen people make this argument against Christianity 

Some Christians even cite such passages as license to vengeance and killing 

But that is not the true essence of Christianity.

The Crusades, the Inquisition, the command to slay every man woman and child, etc.

The Bible is a bloody book, and some have used that as a justification to be bloody themselves, but that is not the essence of Christianity.

The essence (highest manifestation, minus the degradations of man) of Christianity and of Islam are the same and embrace the same God, and the redeemer of mankind, Jesus Christ.

Sterling D. Allan

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2. True Islam is a Demonic deceitful evil murderous religion

[Note: Bob from Michigan, the anti-Immigration group moderator, unsubscribed me from his list (not a problem, I will not miss that list) for submitting the above article.  His comment to me was, "Goodbye Satanist - Jesus is the second person of The Holy Trinity"  I urge you contact him and tell him that such bigotry as he is promoting, without a willingness to see in ourselves the flaws we claim exist only in our enemies, will only lead to more war and destruction, not peace and certainly not freedom. ]

Parallel Comparisons

Taliban Destruction of Buddhist Statue - on a Parallel with God-mandated destructions of idols in the Bible, including Abraham destroying his father's idols.
Alphabetics Commentary on Anthrax - compares Islamic extremists treatment of women with parallel Biblical mandates, e.g. "let women keep silent in the churches."
Ever Wonder? - flash presentation exposing hypocrisy in condemnation of things Islam that are also found in Christianity and Judaism. (Muslim Student Association Oregon State University.) [Of course the problem is that they (extremists) impose their religion upon their inhabitants at the point of a gun.]
Ever Wonder? Flash animation presentation by Muslim Student Association Oregon State University

Christianity and Violent Christians

Violent Christians - cites Biblical passage to urge fellow-Christians to a path of vengeance and retributive murder.
1837 Mormon Temple Endowment Disembowelment Prescription - "Should we do so, we agree that our bodies be cut asunder in the midst and all our bowels gush out."
Reader's Response to Christian Website Addressing Christian Persecution - First comment: "The most evil, vile, heartless, and inhumane massacres, genocides, and subjugation have been performed and instigated by none other then Christians and their imperialistic and racially motivated conquests."
The Dichotomy of the Christian Dilemma - The problems of trying to reconcile belief in a God of love, who is said to be a butcher of children. by Wayne Harrington.
IF JESUS IS GOD - STOMP ON THE ANTS! - Was it Jesus who commanded the slaughter of children? by Wayne Harrington.


Judaism and Violent Jews

613 -- some ridiculous laws among them - Law number 613: "To destroy the seed of Amalek."  
Apologists interpret this in spiritual terms.  Extremists find in it ample justification for . . .
Conquer Canaan - Rabbi expounds rationale for undisputable conquest.


Islam and Violent Muslims

Osama Bin Laden in Prophecy - includes index of Bin Laden's statements inciting the Muslim world to execute God's vengeance on the demonic West, especially America.

Islam Unveiled with Rational Thinking - "exposes" the true essence of Islam: "a religion of intolerance, inequality, violence, discrimination, superstition, fanaticism, and blind faith. Islam advocates killing the non-Muslims, abuses the human rights of the minorities and women. Islam expanded by Jihad (holy war) and forced its way by killing the non-believers and the dissidents. Apostasy in Islam is the biggest crime, punishable by death."


True Essence of Both Sues for Peace

16 Principles of Unification - seeking for peaceful resolution to conflicts such as 911
Petition of Reconciliation Between the Descendants of Ishmael (Muslim World) and Isaac (Jewish/Christian World) - revisits scriptures with two most fundamental commandments in mind "love God & love neighbor."  You'll have to forgive his liberal bend, as he does not see agency as the highest law, and hence doesn't have a problem with governments playing robin hood.
Harrington - Dedicated to revealing the Spiritual duality of the Bible; our focus should be on God and conscience, not on infallibility of written word. - Ephraim and Judah...One in Messiah


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