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You are here: Greater Things > News > 911 and 666 -- Prophetic Ramifications > Prophecy > Book of Mormon Commentary > Experience Passing out Fliers at LDS General Conference

My Experience Passing Out Fliers During LDS General Conference, Oct. 7, 2001

What an interesting day I had passing out 1700 fliers to LDS General Conference goers titled "Book of Mormon Commentary on Sept. 11 Attack on America."

Here is what the flier looked like, except it was black ink on a florescent light-red paper.  (The background image did not show nearly as clearly as it does here.)

Quarter-page Flier

To complete the picture, I should tell you that I dressed up in a white shirt, suit, and conservative red tie; so other than the flier part, I fit into the crowd appearance-wise.  I had a button on my lapel that I got from Kinko's when I made the copies.  It had an American flag in the background, with the words, "Our Grief, Our Prayers, Our Resolve: UNITED States of America."  I spent most of my time on the west half of the sidewalk north Temple square, north of the old Tabernacle.

The first thing I have to mention is that the overall and nearly unanimous reaction I got by the look of people's faces was one of carefully concealed, confused, troubled, bewilderment.  I think they would have been pleased if the flier said something like "America is wonderful and Bin Ladin is terrible."  But when they saw the commentary suggesting that America is wicked and had this coming, they just didn't know what to think.

Because the quotations were from the Book of Mormon, they couldn't quite just dismiss it out of hand.  But because the flier was not passed out by the Church, they were not prepared to believe it.

None of the General Authorities, in any of the talks given during the three sessions Saturday and Sunday, so far as I am away, said anything that even comes close to the idea that we as America may have deserved the attack on Sept. 11 to stir us up to repentance.  Yet every single person attending that conference, General Authorities and members, know full well that such messages of calling a people to repentance lest they be destroyed is a theme of scripture, Noah being the most obvious example.

Then they wonder why it is that the people in the scriptures get so mad at the prophets who come among them warning them of their iniquities.

In the six some hours I was there passing out fliers, no one, not even one person, came to me to talk about the flier, one way or the other, for or against, after getting the flier and reading it.  

One lady, after glancing at the title, enthusiastically volunteered that Alma 16 [see chiasm of Alma 16] and 44 are applicable to the Sept. 11 incident and the subsequent war.  Alma 16 is the story of the sudden destruction of the wicked city of Ammonihah.  Alma 44 is the story of Moroni saying (to paraphrase) "we would not go after you if you didn't come after us and seek our destruction.  If you will not put down your weapons of war, we will destroy you."  She, of course was thinking that Ammonihah would apply to Afghanistan, and Bush is Moroni. 

Though I certainly do not see Bin Laden as Moroni, I think she has it backwards so far as who deserves what.  America is Ammonihah.  Bin Laden is king of the Lamanites who the Lord uses to punish the backsliding Nephites -- the Americans.  The promises of the Lord are extended to the Lamanites when they repent, and they will become even more righteous than the Nephites, while on the other hand, the Nephites are under great condemnation because of sinning against so great light and knowledge that they have been given.  They are in an awful situation, and they don't even realize it.  They won't realize it.

Probably half of the people I approached declined taking the flier, presuming that the flier was anti-Mormon, which is the nature of most fliers distributed during General Conference.

One thing that was really quite amusing was that the accepting or refusal of the flier would go in cycles.  If one person took a flier, the next person was far more likely to take the flier, and so forth, going like that for about 5-8 people on average.  But once one person declined, the same process repeated itself except to the opposite effect.  A few times during the day, there would be a "flier frenzy" phenomenon in which I could hardly pass the fliers out fast enough.  This would go on for about half a minute.

More often, though, was the "repulsion frenzy," in which one, two or three people would avoid me, and it would catch on to those around, lasting for about the same amount of time.  This was most pronounced when I was standing in one place and people were walking by.  Suddenly there would be this big gap around me.

All we like sheep!

Some people (usually who looked like Stake Presidents, Elder's Quorum Presidents, or missionaries and their female counterparts) seemed to be hard-wired to refuse any fliers no matter what.  Once in a while one of these types would surprise me and take a flier.

Rarely, a person would actually come up to me and ask me for the flier.  One person, and one person only, a Japanese girl of about 22 year of age, actually asked for several copies to take to friends.  She had a look on her face as if to say, "Finally, something of substance!"

Generally speaking people 18 through 30 years of age were the most likely to take the flier.  I didn't hand them to children except rarely, when they put their hand out for one; and older people were far more inclined to decline.

At first, while handing out the flier, I would say, "Book of Mormon about September 11," and that seemed to appease people into taking a flier, whereas at first they thought it would be anti-Mormon and did not plan to take one.

Several times, a clever discerning Mormon would ask, "Are you LDS."  My response was, "Are you Christian?"  What I was trying to get at, and what I tried to explain, but to no avail, was that even though I am no longer on the rolls of the LDS church, that I still consider myself to be part of things LDS (in a pure sense), just as they consider themselves to be part of things Christian, even though Christians often do not consider Mormons to be Christian.  "It's the same thing," I would say.  They didn't agree, and they, along with three or four others in their vicinity who overheard the conversation, handed the flier back.

I don't think anyone got it.  They couldn't fathom that there is anything better than Mormonism, so this line of thinking had no way of getting into their heads.  The only direction outside of the LDS Church, in their minds, is down, never up.

Between noon and 2:00 pm, when the ushers pack people into the Conference Center for the next session beginning at 2:00, I worked the "standby-with-tickets" line as it proceeded west on the sidewalk north of Temple Square, just before crossing the street to the new Conference Center, where the line wove back and forth, in and out, for probably 1/4 of a mile.

About half-way through that period, I came up with the ideal statement to allay people's worry that I was handing out anti-Mormon literature.  Every three people or so, I said simply, "Pro-LDS," as I extended my hand with the flier for the next person to take.  That was what people wanted to hear, and I had no problems in my conscience saying it.  I am all for the idea of "Latter-day Saints."  I even have a website www.patriotsaints.com  I also believe that there is much good within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  Yes, there is a setting in order needed, which will come in due time, but I am no more anti-Mormon than David was anti-Saul.

One person angrily said, "Who gave you permission to pass these out?" to which I replied, "It's a free country, and I'm sure glad it is" (well sort of free anyway).

The usher nearby told me, "You have a right to be here, but I sure wish you would leave."

Several guys came to the Conference dressed in their spiffy blue military uniforms.  They looked sharp, but they were less inclined than average to take the flier.  I think maybe three of 20 I offered it to took it.  Can was say, Pride?

They were the men of the hour as far as people around them were concerned, and it showed in their faces.

After the last Conference session, ending at 4:00 PM, I stood at the North entrance/exit from temple square, at the cross-walk going over to the Conference Center.

Behind me, standing against the middle post of the open gate, was an older lady, apparently blind, holding two pot holders in her hand that she had made.  She would recite, as if a tape recording, a sales line saying that she was selling them for $10.00, but that a one or two dollar donation would be appreciated as she was not able to do for herself any more.  She recited the cost of the materials, along with the mark-up.  Then she would repeat the same thing.  She couldn't tell if people heard her or not, so she just did this over and over again.

When I heard her story, I gave her a dollar that I could not afford to give.  (I couldn't afford paying for the fliers either.)

At the end of the rush, she still stood there with those two pot holders in hand.  No one had bought them.

At the end of the day, as the crowds had petered out, I took occasion to speak to a couple of people at length.  One was a gentleman, very kind, who works for the Church translation department.  In fact this morning as I pulled out the Ensign to read through it while going to the bathroom, after flipping through one or two pages, I was astonished to stumble onto his picture (the gift of serendipity).  (Ensign, July, 2001, p. 31.)

He was actually acting as a mediator between myself and another guy who wanted to tear me to shreds.  He was defending my position most of the time.

The more we talked, the more he couldn't understand why I wasn't in the church.

At one point, the guy who was debating me said that anything he is going to learn he is going to learn it from "them," pointing to the Conference Center.

I said something to the effect, "Well, then, you're not going to learn very much, because they have to tailor their words to the least common denominator -- the new converts who are in any audience they address."  It's a choice they've made, and it's not very conducive to further light and knowledge.

Finally, in desperation, the translator gentleman pleaded with me, "Come back; you will be blessed far beyond your expectations if you do."

To that, I replied, "You should go back to being a Methodist."  He mentioned earlier that he had been a Methodist prior to converting to the LDS Church.  I then asked him how that felt to him for me to say he should "Go back."  I reminded him of how many of his acquaintances surely must have thought he was so deceived to convert to Mormonism."  I then said that this was how I felt when he told me I need to "come back" to the LDS Church.  To me, it would be a mater of reverting, rather than improvement.

He didn't like that at all.  His demeanor changed, and he said I had deceived him by saying I was for the LDS church when it turns out I am against it.  I said I am not against the LDS Church, any more than he is against Methodism.

That was about the last thing spoken as he walked away with almost a look of betrayal on his face.  I probably had as much of a look of sad astonishment.

After that, I returned to my car five bocks away in free parking, passing fliers to people on the sidewalks along the way, including a couple of groups of punk-rockers.

 

To make this story complete, I have to tell you about the first part of the day.  Before I do that, I want to thank a friend of mine, who I will keep anonymous, who let me use his car to drive up to Salt Lake, because my car was overheating.

Anyway, my first stop on the way to Temple Square was Kinko's, to make copies of the flier.  I was nearly done, when I turned around and saw a familiar face.  I didn't remember the name for sure, so I said, "Hey, don't I know you?"

Well, yes I did.  It was R.J., who poses in his life as a homeless person, and plays the role well: long unkempt beard, matted hair, knitted cap, grungy coat, carrying a blanket and a grocery bag with a few morsels of food.  He spends a lot of time camping out at Temple Square, kind of like a perpetual Samuel the Lamanite.  He was there when the crazy lady stormed the Family History Center. A day before the Aug 11, 1999 tornado hit Salt Lake City, he stood up on a city bus in Salt Lake and told the passengers that there was going to be "a tornado in the toilet."

So there is R.J.  He said he had walked all the way from Sugar House and was on his way to Temple Square, when the Spirit told him to go into Kinko's.  "Why Kinko's?" he said to himself.  The Spirit said, "Just go inside."

Well, the irony of this was that the day before, I had sent a message to several of my mailing lists, inviting anyone who wanted to, to come join me passing out fliers.  I didn't really think anyone would, but I thought I would ask.  No one volunteered.

So now, God has this bottom-of-the-barrel personified person showing up to help.

As we walked along, R.J. went on and on about how precariously we sit as a nation, and especially how the Mormons are on the brink of disaster because of their being incongruous with the teachings they espouse.

He talked about how he has been brutally handled by the police, and how he expected they would not take kindly to his showing up on Temple Square, but that he was going anyway.

I said I wished we had a picture to take of us, at which he stopped, pulled a small camera out of his pocket, and we had a passerby take a shot of us standing in front of Zion's Bank on Main Street.  I hope he can locate me to send me a copy of that when he gets it developed.

When we arrived, he was skittish about passing out fliers just yet, as he didn't want to get kicked off the minute he arrived.  So I suggested he wait until the rush when the first session lets out and people come in for the last session.  I set my extra fliers down on the ground next to his blanket, and there they remained safe.

I only saw him once after that.  In exasperation, he said he had tried to hand out a handful of the fliers but that a lady took five of them and threw them on the ground. 

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these, my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Thanks, R.J., wherever you are.  You are an inspiration to me.

 

On the way home, I stopped by the Relief Mine East of Salem Utah.  Seeing as I've started a website www.reliefmine.com I thought it would be a good idea to see the mine.  I've been on the property before, but not up to the mine.

Walking up the road (beyond "No Trespassing" gate), I stopped at a mobile home to inform them of my presence.  The guy there said, "You don't believe that stuff do you?"  He has lived there all his life, but does not believe there is anything to it.  He said, "The only person who receives revelation is the Prophet," implying that the mine's founder, the visionary John Koyle, couldn't possibly be legitimate.

I take comfort in that statement, hoping he is just as wrong about the mine as he is about the prophet being the only one to receive revelation.

 

This morning (the day following Conference), I pulled up some statistics on my website, curious to see what kind of response there may have been to the flier I passing out yesterday.  I generally handed out only one flier per group, usually composed of at least two people, though often more; so the number of people who actually saw the flier is easily twice 1700.

The site statistics did not reflect any surges whatsoever.  In fact, the main URL listed on the flier, www.greaterthings.com/News/911 had nearly a third LESS traffic on Sunday than it did on Saturday.

No email messages were in my box from any of these conference-goers.  No messages posted to the discussion boards.

Nothing.

Hello?  Hello?  Hello?  Hello!

Anyone out there?  out there?  out there?  out there?

If you happen to have been one who was at General Conference and received the above flier, drop me a line.  Surely there was someone among the thousands who received the flier, who appreciated it enough to end up on this website, subscribed to the newsletter, and hence will read this account.  I would be curious to hear from you.

Sincerely,

Sterling D. Allan
October 8, 2001

See also

Feedback to the above account
Book of Mormon Commentary on Sept. 11 Attack (Index)
anyone want to help pass out 911 fliers at Gen. Conf.? - invitation sent out the day before.
Prophetic Studies on 911
Book of Mormon Resources at GreaterThings.com
Book of Mormon Chiasms and Parallels

October 8, 2001

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