Nancy Amons namons@wsmv.com
February 20, 2003
An electric car that defies the laws of physics? Carl
Tilley says the batteries in his DeLorean never go dead.
(Carl Tilley) "No. Never"
The device he's invented, he says, actually creates
electricity to charge the batteries. He says the technology
powers his whole workshop just outside Lebanon, as well as an
electric ATV. Tilley says the experts tell him it's impossible
to create more energy than you use. But he says he's figured
it out.
(Tilley) "Just because they say it can't be done,
doesn't mean it can't."
More than a dozen investors hope he's right. They've
plunked down a total of more than $500,000 buying stock in
Tilley's company.
Which has us asking: who is Carl Tilley?
Tilley tells investors he was a successful businessman in
Wyoming. So Channel Four's T-Team went to Kemmerer, to find
out.
Kemmerer, Wyoming is a small town where neighbors still
shovel out the widow next door. It's the birthplace of JC
Penny's.
In 1995, news that a man named Carl Tilley was opening
Wyoming Solar Company generated a lot of excitement.
(Arthur Playle, former employee) "He told me after the
schooling was done, I would be making 30 dollars an
hour."
Arthur Playle and his wife placed their confidence in
Tilley's business, because a state jobs program was paying
half the workers' salaries, even buying their tools and boots.
(Emma Playle) "The state. Hey, it's got to be
legitimate."
Kathleen Rosas believed Tilley already had contracts lined
up.
(Kathleen Rosas, former employee) "He told us that we
would be traveling from rest stop to rest stop, state rest
stops along the highway, to install solar panels to power
these rest stops."
Officials at the state of Wyoming's job training center in
Kemmerer believed it, too. At least at first. One state
official who didn't want to talk on camera says Tilley brought
in a copy of the rest stop contract. A contract they later
learned was falsified, as were his financial documents. When
the state found that out, it cut off his money.
(Arthur Playle) "He just blew a lot of smoke."
They say their paychecks often bounced.
(Kathleen Rosas) "This is my personal opinion. I think
he's a con man from the get-go. I wouldn't touch him with a
50-foot pole."
The former employees weren't the only ones to have a beef
with Tilley. His suppliers sued him for unpaid bills. Even
hauled him into criminal court for bounced checks. Tilley owed
more than a hundred thousand dollars. He filed bankruptcy, and
left town.
The Channel Four I-Team asked Tilley about his experience
in Kemmerer. He says Wyoming Solar was a success its first
year.
(Tilley) "We put in maybe 15, 20 solar systems a year.
And most of 'em worked. I think all of em worked pretty
good."
He admits his company went bankrupt, but blames that on one
big customer who didn't pay. And what about that rest stop
contract?
(Tilley) "For rest stops? That's not true." (Amons)
"The state employment office says that's what you said
when you came to them for the jobs program." (Tilley)
"That's not true." (Amons) "You never told
employees you had a contract to put solar in rest stops?"
(Tilley) "Nope. We told em we looked into it, I think,
but we never told em we had a contract."
Arthur Playle says that was the biggest lie Tilley told the
workers.
(Arthur Playle) "That there was 30 some rest stops in
the state of Wyoming and that he had a contract to do solar
panels on all of them."
Instead of working at rest stops, the workers say they
installed solar panels on a handful of homes, and built a
gazebo at Tilley's own house.
(Amons) "Did you have your workers in the state jobs
program do work on your private property?" (Tilley)
"No. They didn't do any work on my property until after
the state contract was done. I think I'm going to end
this."
Wyoming's in the past. But what about the present? Remember
- we told you Tilley's opened a new business in Tennessee.
He's gotten half a million dollars from investors for the
invention he says creates energy.
Friday night, we'll hear from two former company insiders,
who regret they were ever involved with Tilley. (Robert
Kibbey, former Tilley partner) "I was part of it for over
a year, and it fooled me."