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PUTTING ON THE SHOW
Carl Tilley stands next to the DeLorean converted to
electric for his demo at the Nashville Superspeedway.
The left rear axle bearing supposedly gave out after only 13
laps.
(photo from Tilley site, reproduced here to
identify the con artist) |
Carl Tilley didn't know who he was messing
with when he brought Walter Webb into his scam operation that
promised technology that could provide endless electrical output
with no fuel input requirement. He was able to get Webb to believe
his line, and Webb subsequently brought in multiple investors to the
tune of $401,000. Seven months he had Webb believing the story.
But now Webb is intent on exposing Tilley as one of the biggest con
men of our day; and he is not short of evidence to prove it,
starting with an exposé of what is in that mysterious black box.
"It is nothing more than a high-efficiency wind turbine being
turned by an AC motor," Webb reports, having finally been given
a peek inside when he installed it in Tilley's shop. There are no
24-carrot gold wires, no 'circle within a circle' rotating spheres
moving in 7 directions at once to harness static electricity, no
levitating elements; and the thing will not shock anyone who is in
the room if the cover is removed while in operation.
One of the clinchers was when Walter showed up early one day to
the shop to find a regular battery charger topping off the batteries
that supposedly were being powered by the "endless
charger" array inside the shop. He had wondered why there was
an orange extension cord going out to the shop from the house nearly
every morning, and had not been satisfied with Tilley's reply.
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| Tilley's shop next to his
double-wide, bought with the monies raised by investors,
connected in the early morning by orange extension cord to
"top off" the "self-charging" power
system. |
A recent check of Tilley's power bill shows that he is paid as
much as $180.00 one month, with an average of around $130.00 per
month, which is to be expected, and shows that he is not generating
anything of his own as claimed.
The technology, which does function phenomenally to a certain
extent, is not Tilley's. It came from Robert Kibbey, who has a
notarized document stating that Tilley and he would share 50-50 in
all developments of the technology. Contrary to the signed contract,
Tilley claims that Kibbey has no such right, and that Kibbey's
technology isn't behind the present technology, which Webb has seen
with his own eyes as being the wind turbine Kibbey developed.
Kibbey was devastated when Webb went to him and they began comparing
notes. Kibbey was going to just walk away and do nothing when Tilley
gave him the shaft, but now he is intent on seeing that Tilley is
stopped.
Kibbey still has in his shop the original device that he and Tilley
worked on together -- the same device that Tilley told Webb he had
sold for $37 million.
Together, Kibbey and Tilley had been able to raise $102,000; and
Tilley used some of that wealth to flash money around at Webb to
convince him that they had something real.
"Before, he had been on food stamps, and now all of the sudden
he was waving $100 bills around," Webb recalls of the time when
he first began to consider working with Tilley, a relationship that
lasted from December 2001 through June 2002.
A later indicator of fraud came on May 4 when Tilley told a
stock-holder's meeting that he had been on the phone the night
before (a Friday night) with a vice president of GE who had said he
would put down 2 billion dollars "sight unseen" for the
technology. The stock-holders had been antsy, wondering when they
were going to see something for all their investment. After gloating
about the 2 billion, Tilley then told the stock holders that he
would gladly refund any of their money. They all held onto their
stock, which they had purchased at $1,000 per share, the minimum
purchase being $5,000. Walter has that statement on video tape.
Tilley couldn't remember the name of the vice president, nor his
phone number. "He'll call back," Tilley had said. A few
months earlier, the story was that Nissan had offered several
million.
"That was a moment of clarity," said Webb. "I knew in
my gut that something was not right. He didn't speak to any vice
president. I went home that night and told my family we have a real
problem: Carl is full of BS."
During the demonstration at the Nashville Superspeedway Sept. 9,
when the demo was halted after only 13 laps due to a supposedly
failed bearing in the left, rear axle, Webb's cousin was on hand and
said he could fix it within twenty minutes. A DeLorean club was also
present and offered the necessary parts. Tilley turned them down and
scrapped the event.
Webb discounts the recent purported results from a 20-hour
"hard run" of a golf-cart converted to an electric ATV
using the Tilley charger. "Look at the names of the people who
signed the 'witness' documents. They are on the payroll."
Webb relates a time when they set up some sophisticated testing
equipment on the black box to see if there was more electricity
coming out than was going in. Those measurements showed the opposite
of what Tilley's instruments had been showing.
Doug Littlefield, who is still with the foundation, admitted in a
recent foundation newsletter, "This process [of getting an
outright buyer of the technology] would go a lot faster if we had
outside independent test confirmation."
Webb is hiring independent investigators to comb Tilley's criminal
records, which show a pattern of moving, conning, then moving on.
"He's moved 16 times in the past 12-13 years. This is by far
the largest con operation he has attempted." Webb said that
anyone can get a lot of information about Carl Benson Tilley's
criminal past as well as numerous bankruptsies by running his social
security number through a generic locator service.
A Sheriff of Lincoln County in Kemmerer Wyoming, where there is a
warrant out for Tilley's arrest, said that when he was taken to
court there, he took his wife, who has Multiple Sclerosis, to the
stand and pitifully explained to the court how desperately she
needed him. Now, in Tennessee, he is collecting state-funded TENN-care
for her medical needs, though his funds are adequate to cover her
himself.
Tilley is also in violation of Tennessee's Blue Sky Law, which
limits a private stock company such as his to no more than 35 stock
holders, and no more than 1/3 ownership of the total stock sold.
"Actually, he is well above the one-third limit, and he has
approximately 44 investors," said Webb.
Another Securities and Exchange violation that is now coming due is
that Tilley promised his stock holders that if they did not get a
"reasonable return -- at least double their investment --
within a year," he would refund their money. That is documented
on video as well. The stock began issue Jan. 2002, via
Rochelle, McCullough and Alds, attorneys at law, and still there is
no buyer of the technology; but Tilley is claiming that he has a
buyer who could sign within a month.
There are also tax issues that Webb is intent on bringing to a fore,
with bogus book-keeping methods and non-reporting.
When asked about some of these charges by Webb, Tilley responded,
"We have lawyers that take care of this...we have counter suits
and we will all have our day in court soon."
Tilley once commented to Webb, "You can get anything you want
in the court system if you have enough money. Just look at O.J.
Simpson."
One month ago, Carl's attorney office fired him and refused to work
for him any more. He had been working with one of most prestigious
law firms in the state: Rochelle, McCullough and Alds, which
includes a Senator, Bob Rochelle. Tilley had to go 60 miles away to
Cookeville to find an attorney who would represent him.
Tilley is counter suing Webb, Kibbey, and Kibbey's wife, for $1
million, and is poised to place a restraining order against the
three of them to keep them from disseminating any more information
to present or potential stock holders.
Webb, who calls these "delay tactics," doesn't mind,
because he has already been able to disseminate a great deal of
information to the stock holders, about half of which are willing to
go on the record with the local media as admitting to having been
scammed.
Tilley's contractual promises to Webb of a share of the company and
to be put on salary were also breached, though Webb did get the 10%
commission/finder's fee promised for each stock holder he brought
aboard. Had he received the promised 100 shares of stock, Tilley
would have lost the controlling 51% ownership of the company. After
it became obvious Tilley would not provide the stock, Webb resigned.
The new whistleblower laws that protect the one who comes forth to
tell all, will protect Webb from being indicted with the pending
fall of the Tilley Foundation. But satisfaction will not come to
Webb until Tilley is shut down and locked up.
"I got my own family members to invest in this company,"
Webb said. "There are people from my church who I got to invest
in it. One person came to me and said, 'This is my child's college
money. If you tell me to do it, I will do it,' and I told them to do
it."
Just recently Tilley accepted $20,000 for stock from an elderly lady
who received the money after the passing of her husband, who had
invested $5,000.
Webb is taking this personally, and will not rest until Tilley is
indicted.
As a former entertainer, and 'D.J. of the Year' four years in a row
in Tennessee, Webb has a lot of friends in key places. When he was
working with the Tilley foundation, those connections helped him
raise $401,000 in seven months. But now that he sees Tilley as a con
artist of the darkest hue, he will be venting that energy to expose
Tilley. "I don't want anyone else to lose their money to this
guy."
Webb intends to post documentation regarding Tilley's criminality on
the Internet.
It is scheduled to be indexed at
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/fraud/ |
