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More Charges About Fraudulent Charger Claims

Former Tilley associate, Robert Kibbey, claims to be setting forth a set of documentation of misrepresentations by Tilley.

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From: rkibbey2@juno.com (Robert Kibbey) Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2002, 5:33am (EST-1) To: ranger116@webtv.net Subject: Re: Tilley Kibbey field generator
  Yes I have a model. No I did not tell him how to complete the car. In my opinion, Carl is extremely paranoid and is not about to let anybody help him correctly complete it. Look up a website called phavt.org and it says "how to make a living selling phoney energy devices. You will see several interesting parallels.
The device which I originally designed as a portable RV generator is more or less what powers the car. We
have a provisional patent on it.
It WILL light a 200 Watt halogen bulb for an extended period of time, however it will not power a whole shop yet (as Tilley proclaimed in several share sales meeting in which the mis-statements and outright lies were many).
  If you ask Tilley about Watts law, maximum transfer of power at matching impedance a tank circuit or any basic electric problem , you'll find he doesn't know. Ask him, his phone number is 615-444-5315. He won't answer though because he has thirty five plus really ticked off defrauded investors and at last count five legal actions on his plate. Most importantly I just found out yesterday that inspite of a court order forbidding him to access any accounts, he closed one, took the money and sold stock $15,000 to a guy in Minnesota. He has now enterred the arena of criminal law(again)
    My opinion is this: According to the Wyoming law authorities( where he is wanted for three counts of fraud) we contacted who said "Do not give this man any money he makes his living selling"energy devices." (Then he moves).
it appears that after he fooled me into believing that he had already built devices similar to my designs (It took me awhile to figure out how he worked this angle , and I never saw any proof of a device that ran at his "ranch for seven years.".didn't find any proof of any ranch either just 16 addresses in about ten years.) anyway, once I made my device marginally workable ,and worked up a way to put it in a car later etc, at that point it looked pretty spiffy with blinking readouts etc. ..well then I refused to back up the outrageous performance claims he was making like
"it floats in the air"..sparks shoot out several feet, there are three opposing rotating magic parts inside" (see his logo on the Tilley foundation website for that rotating logo..... which is utter nonsense...
Well about that time ....He got ticked and decided that it looked just fine to sell stock with. He left the investors in the Tek-nology Inc company formed to supposedly sell the techology and he started selling what now amounts to over 100% of his shares. After all he only owned 50% to begin with so it didn't take long.
Now it appears on the web that following the same pattern: Show people a magic silver box..car etc...clain it has nothing to do with you former device and that you own all of it but will sell some of YOUR personal stock, get a new cmpany name to raise money under(a new company name and the logo of the Delorean surrounding by a circular lightning bolt. has just appeared on the web .His site now says that the technology is available for "showings" but it is available only by "private showing". In the court order this is a no no too.
Hey if it works don't fix it just do it again.
A guy named Walter Webb wiaed me up to this originally after he had raised $400,000 for Tilley and began to questions Tilleys failure to issue him promised stock and Tilley's ways of avoiding any actual testing of the unit.
So Carl moved on to a guy named Doug from vermont who replaced Walter who replaced me.
That original RV unit that was so amazing has now been put in the background and he is using the car(s) to raise money.
I put it to you, if the RV generastor had actually been capable of powering his whole shop wouldn't YOU have sold it for millions if you were in his place woudn't you. I would have.I tried to. he found many ways to keep it from getting tested. hecj he even got my original attorney on his side. Son of a gun went around me when i would't trade out legal services for stock. I wiouldn't take his money either.... heck I thought he was my "friend'. Boy was I sure surprised when Walter later showed me he had magically appeared on the board of directors. Son of a gun did quit the same day Walter mailed packet out to all the stockholder telling everybody about the fraud an good ol' Mister Kibbey 1/2 owner who supposedly did'nt exist. Ha. Then the lawyer had the balls to try billing me for worked we'd traded out for plumbing a long time ago. That was to keep me off his butt. It didn't work. I was promised 2 Billion dollars too of course it have my never showed up... that is part of the pattern too.. lots of promises of shares in the potential millions. that will even make a friend bite you in the butt. Ouch .
gee somehow that magic little unit never got tested ..or completed by me. Why bother. it raised $400K. But... if you just want to sell stock...you move on to the car. My original plan was to bolt the device into an existing electric car and match voltages.easy quick ..just send that little bugger tooling across the U.S. coast to coast. ther is a very good chance that I can do just that.
But my oh my... a Delorean is a lot flashier. I just wanted results. The Delorean only went 13 laps at the Nashville speedway before a "wheel bearing" supposedly failed. Gee what a surprise .....coincidentely   at maximum draw, say 400 amps or so , a standard state of the art kit electric vehicle would go just about that far WITHOUT a Kibbey/Tilley generator.
Hmmmm. Also the "mechanic " was there who helped build the thing and he told Walter that he offerred to fix it right there. Tilley wouldn't let him. Nor would he reportedly let a Delorean club memver fix it right there so the test could continue. I wonder why? Could it be that the car did'n't work as promised. could it be that the $5,000 he reportedly paid out to rent the facility was just chump change compared to the tens of thousands you'd get from the internet and TV coverage? He just packed it up, citing sercurity concerns. Then..... the website said the Delorean was off by 2".
by the way in court his Lawyer said it was a sucessful test. but the website says it wasn't.Hmmmmm eenie meenie minie moe....The lawyer even spilled the beens pleading to ther judge to drop the Injunction because it was stopping them from selling "more stock". By the way that was a duplicate injuction an it was dropped the judge took the stand that the one was enough and had a strong basis. Carl is telling people everything has been beat. nonsense.
So there was further delay while an Exterra was purchased and supposedly outfitted...only OH no!!!It was 2" off too!
what a coincidence. Now another page appeared citing more delay and now another model SUV is to be used .
Again I put it to you. If you had a Delorean that would really run coast to coast wouldn't you just quickly fix the little 2" problem. Not of you wanted to sell more stock you wouldn't.
In retrospect looking back at why Tilley didn't want to finish it or have it tested....I think it may be that Tilley was so surprised that I made a device work that he just couldn't wait to go back to good old plan A from days gone by.
It may not have been part of the plan to begin with.Why bother?
I am doing the honest original plan which is that I am currently having the device legitimately tested and built from ground up by an independent design lab. I'll let you know shortly how it goes.. Meanwhile Carl is violating court orders selling more stock etc.I would not be surprised if he finds a way to fake his run to little rock,,you know have a spare car in a van hook a wire up from a generator hidden in the van when you stop for a hamburger. Misquote the watchers or just make sure no one sees the switchola. he is a brilliat con man. how else could he take a failed run at the speedway and turn it into a victory.
It would make a great movie script! i'd never have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. The amazing thing at his filmed presentations is he contradicts himself over and over..one minute it has 24 carat gold contacts the next minute it has 14 carat gold contacts...then back to 24 or 14 or whatever is convienient . One minute they have a supposed standing 13 million dollar offer..in the video investors look askance as to why they don't sell it right then for the big money...but wait..Carl says because you can make sooo much more.
Even investors I have spoken with and who have seen the evidence of fraud have actually NOT asked for there money back saying things like"but what if it really is worth 2 billion(one fraudulent unpursued purchaser brought out that figure) ..."gee they say, what if it does hit ".
The man is a brilliant con man. He is experienced at 61 years old..depending upon who he is talking to. He says he was a Navy SEAL but we can find no record of it. He told stockholders he needed more money because he just spent $275K on medical bills for his wife who he says has M.S. She has something..but she also reportedly has Tenncare which means the state pays.
He tells one investor that he is going to help buy him a home..then he tells the man that he just had millions embezzled from his accounts...oops no new house. .
He lived in a two bedroom apartment when I met him and I used to give him cigarette money.
But hey, he fooled me for a year, and he has fooled some awfully wealthy and smart investors. Greed is why. It is a blinding emotion.
He ain't done yet.but now that he 's gone criminal again(before it was just civil) by violating the court order I would not be surprised to see another 17th move, Then perhaps I can see if I can help some of the defrauded Tilley foundation investors recover their money by completing it. Maybe not ....several are still buying the storyline.
Forgive my rambling it is two in the morning.I have been gathering copies of patents evidence, tapes etc. and mailing them out ot scammed investors hoping that they will take up the truth too and maybe get the law to nail this guy.
Feel free to give me a fax # and address and if I get time I'll send you some evidence and get the word out.
I'd really like to get this over with so I can complete a Universal translator I've been working on. I have a real Phazer type stun gun in the works to. My electronics genius I tap for second opinions belives they'll both work well. We'll see.
Thanks for inquiring!
PS I badly need to get a Tilley fraud website up and running with the facts on it. can you help. Got any ideas.
This week we meet with our attorney again and start the filing for breach of the court order and more.
God willing right will win out. The evidence is overwhelming.But, he knows the system and how far he can push it before moving.
  Get the word out.
For evil to succeed it is only necessary that good men do nothing.
Thanks again.
Robb

Carl Tilley Earlier Comment on the Discussion Board

Name:     Carl Tilley
Date: Friday, November 08, 2002
Subject:  Robert Kibbey
Email:    cktilley@bellsouth.net

Robert Kibbey is the con artest of the entire world....he is a drug abuser, and has some 18 arrest in Colorado alone.....numerious law suits...his arrest record includes Assault, menacing, Fraud, Inpersonation...(tried to impersonate a doctor), forger of priscription drugs, compempt of court and numerious other violations, ...Kibbey has been sued several times over his money dealings and lost....he used fraud to take funds from a coperation in excess of $10,000, forged paper work, and he could not screw a light bulb in much less invent anything.... in Smith county Kibbey is known as a crook...and to stress this one County Official stated "kibbey is as crooked as a snake."
Currentry Mr. Kibby and his Injunction was tossed out of court....Mr. Kibbey knows this but he continues to lie...he is aware that several law suits are about to hammer him and his wife along with another person Walter Webb.  Kibbey is so ingerant he is unaware that the device works. Mr. Kibbey did file a suite and we intend to hammer his little cute self back to Colorado and meet up with some former business owners who are fixing to hammer him and his wife into next week.Ask Kibbey about the funds he stole from a business account by signing checks with only one siginture on them when it required two...ask him about the parts he said he ordered and never got....ask him if he knows of an investgation is underway for fraud and tax evasion, ask him if he knows that the Tilley Foundation is currently filing three seperate law suits againts him and his wife....the hurt is coming down he is just to stupied to know it.

Carl Tilley

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See also

• Full Coverage of Tilley Fraud

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