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Prophet Silenced?  Why Does He Schmooze With World Dictators?
LDS leaders hobnob with tyrants while speaking nary a word of warning about conspiracies to establish a global dictatorship. (8/17/02)
'They Have Warned us; It's Not Their Job Anymore'
Says patriot Christopher Hansen (8/10/02).  Follow-up dialogue included.
In the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly
Jeremiah 23: 1-2,11-22 describes well the shepherd neglect now seen in the LDS and Christian Churches. (8/18/02)  Comment by David Cleveland.

 

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From: "Thomas Mick" <thomasam@lessonsofthepast.com>
To: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 12:45 PM
Subject: Hello

Mr. Allan,
 
I have been receiving your email for some time now without comment.
You see, I am a Christian and you are a Mormon [sic] and sometimes I find it difficult to communicate based upon those differences.
However...you reference to and comments upon
.../News/upon_my_house/brethren_dont_warn/prophets_shut_up.htm has made it impossible for me to remain silent.

I, like you, am furious at the blatant and carefree manner that violations of the Supreme Law of this land are ignored by our respective churches.  The words and actions of our so-called "leaders" are basically having the effect of overthrowing biblical principles in exchange for "acceptance".  For many of us this is neither appropriate nor desirable conduct of LEADERS.  Church leaders are supposed to guide people in the TRUTH, not a lie; yet that seems to be the direction both of our respective faiths are going.

  Thank you for your efforts in this regard and know that you are not alone.  Should you someday desire to have a discussion regarding the Lord Jesus Christ and his Church, please let me know.  I would love to have dialog with another person who thinks for himself!

  Shalom,
 
Thomas Mick
www.lessonsofthepast.com
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/constitutionrestorationproject2/

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One little correction.  I am not Mormon.  I am a Mormon graduate (excommunicated in 1993).  The term I prefer for myself and my associates is "remnant."  "Mormon remnant" is fine too.

Sterling

Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Why Aren't The LDS Leaders Talking About The New World OrderConspiracy?

   The hand of the Lord is in your failure to speak. As you slept, was it not also a sign that the hearers you sought were also asleep?
  
Is 29:10 For the LORD hath poured out upon [Israel] the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed [their] eyes. . . .

Rom 11:8 (. . . God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
   9 And David saith . . .
   10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and [humble] their back alway [i.e., by their anguish].
   11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should [remain fallen]? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come . . . for to provoke them to jealousy [to recover their inheritance and mission].

   The School of Hard Knocks is the grinding wheel of the Lord. It bears down as a dragon of the night upon the drunkards of Ephraim. It must come to this or the Lord will lose His people.

   --David

 

Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Greater Things] Re: Fw: [PatriotSaints] Why Aren't The LDS Leaders Talki...

Mr. Allan,

Over the past two days some interesting emails have come to my computer about the "New World Order" and your Church leaders. As a born again believer, I find it hard to understand why your Church leaders would not resist this evil which is upon the Earth. The International Criminal Court was, in my opinion, the final piece of the puzzle and that was put in place 7/1/02. Can the Antichrist be far behind?

 

Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [PatriotSaints] Why Aren't The LDS Leaders Talking About The New World Order Conspiracy?

   Other posts have clarified when to sound the alarm and when to be silent.

   The fact that Sterling was cut off from speaking does not mean Sterling was wrong! But the Lord did not open the way. Meanwhile, Sterling is ready to proclaim the warnings of Ether 8 (conspiracies to overthrow God's work).

   We must also be ready to bear witness. But in God's wisdom, there are times to be silent. After the people have trodden God's word under their feet, THE ONLY WAY to wake them up is the hard way‹‹war, pestilence, famine. That was the point of my last post.

   Meanwhile, there must be a light on a hill for those who are drawn from the dark valley, so that no willing soul will be lost.

   We must speak, but God wants to have a say about how, where and when we speak, so it will optimize His agenda. For example, Jonah's prayers within the whale WERE NOT answered until he "hit bottom." (That's what I think is going to happen before people will listen to the Book of Mormon, etc.) We must likewise wait for permission before unloading on people. I'm not implying that Sterling wasn't following God, so God had to stop him. I am saying that we are to be ready, as Sterling is, and not grieve if the way is hedged up, for in this manner the hearts of our enemies are revealed. By this we also learn by many surprises and disappointments the options of each opportunity. It is part of our training. That's why Sterling can still thank the Lord in all things, for in every negative there is wisdom for the righteous and condemnation for the wicked.

   --David

 

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