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Introduction to New Discussion Group:
Uniting East and West in Christ

From: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
To: "shulemna e-group" <shulemna@LightofChrist.net>; "Greater Things Newsletter" <Greater_Things@listbot.com>; "keys e-group" <keys-l@spiritweb.org>; "SDA Biggies newsletter" <SDA_biggies@listbot.com>; "SDA Friends list" <SDA_friends@listbot.com>; "David's Outcasts e-group" <davids_outcasts@listbot.com>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 9:21 PM
Subject: [888] East & West Apostasy and Restoration -- New List

This is a time of crisis in my life. I've learned so much of value from those who have immersed themselves in the teachings of Eastern religions, and yet these same individuals usually carry with them an often sacrilegious disregard of the gift of salvation offered by Jesus Christ. I found this relentless disparagement of this central element of Christianity to be so burdensome to my soul that yesterday I finally unsubscribed from the "Keys of Knowledge" e-mail discussion group, which is centered around the teachings of J.J. Dewey, who leans strongly to the New Age himself. I've penned a detailed response to a post he sent me this morning offering the olive leaf. I will post that separately.

The eastern sacrilege is not the only thing that was troubling me. The Western orthodoxy was wearing on my nerves as well. For that reason, earlier in the day yesterday, I unsubscribed from David's Outcasts list. I found the dogmatism and unbending orthodoxy that is found so often there something that I needed to take a break from as well, even though I was the list founder and administrator. I needed to get away from yet another round of bantering about whether or not a person needed to live polygamy to be saved.

Crisis times can be wonderful opportunities for break-throughs, and so it has been with me.

This morning I had a major flash of revelation.

I am going to log back on to the keys of knowledge list and David's Outcasts to post this and see what sort of response I get from both camps.

My specialty or gift of understanding has been regarding the apostasy of Mormonism. In that study and the series of revelations that have come in the process of learning over the years about this and all of its ramifications, I have seen basically an unfolding of the parable of the wheat and the tares. We started with something good, but then the enemy came in and sowed counterfeit paradigms along side the good truths, which in their early stages are nearly indistinguishable, but later become manifest. I have seen how Satan has infiltrated the LDS Church to the point that most of its highest leaders are blinded to the extent of their own apostasy as the shepherds of the flock.

Meanwhile, co-mingling in the Church of Jesus Christ are the Remnant who will redeem Zion along side those who will fight against the work of the Father. On one hand are the hypocrites who draw near him with their lips but their hearts are far from him, and on the other hand, are those whose hearts are given wholly to God and the walk of righteousness, having received a genuine mighty change of heart, whose actions of good stem from the heart, not from the expectations of others.

The LDS Church is BOTH the bride of the Lamb -- a bride that will be purified -- AND the Great and Abominable Church. Both elements are present in the same institution.

Gratefully, out of all this chaos is prophesied to be born a man-child, the kingdom of God, brought forth by a small remnant from the midst of that apostasy who awake and put on strength.

SO IT IS WITH THE NEW AGE AND EASTERN MYSTICISM.

There are many good, sound truths to be found there. Indeed, the origins of Eastern Mysticism may have been relatively pure.

But like Christianity or any other truth revealed from God, immediately, the enemy went forth and sowed his evil tares along side the wheat, which counterfeit teachings and individuals who expounded them were nearly indistinguishable from the truth and the true messengers of God.

Co-mingled in the esoteric/mystical/New Age are both grand and glorious truths as well as damnable lies which will destroy. Furthermore, among those who adhere to the Eastern Religions are found both those who could be considered aligned with the church of God as well as others who are aligned with the church of the devil -- side by side, indistinguishable to the casual observer. In the midst of that circle of teachings that might be classified as "New Age" is both goodness that will exalt a person and evil that will damn him.

And emerging through the fires ahead will be a remnant who will awake and put on strength, helping to bring forth the man-child, the kingdom of God on earth.

I think anyone hearing this analogy will resonate with it and perceive instinctively/ intuitively with their common sense that it is true. The parable of the wheat and the tares is applicable to all religions -- to all movements of God.

A corollary of this is that there needs to be among the remnant who will redeem Zion, including among those who gravitate toward the Eastern/New Age approach to God, a sense of watching out, of being alert, of looking out for counterfeits, falsehoods, that Satan may have introduced to thwart the truths found therein, lest someone be caught in a snare.

In these end times, the "fullness of times," all truth is going to be circumscribed into one great whole. Falsehoods, like dross, will be skimmed off in the fires through which we will pass.

I would submit to you that one of the most profound lies introduced by the devil to mysticism/ esoteric/ Eastern Religion, especially in its manifestation in the West in the form of New Age philosophy, is the redefining of Jesus Christ into just a role model (molded of course to their own making) and denying the gift of salvation that he offers.

Likewise, one of the most profound lies in circulation among the Mormons/ Christians, is the inapproachability of godhood and of individual spiritual contact with God.

In the coming kingdom of God we will realize that there is BOTH (1) a God in heaven who governs in the affairs of man, who sent his only begotten Son, to save us from our sins, and to fill us with his Spirit to guide us in our path, AND (2) latent godhood within each of us, actuated as we bring ourselves into harmony as a function of our free will with the universal oneness as epitomized by Jesus Christ. We as the children of God have the destiny to ourselves one day become God. There is BOTH an individual and a collective level of application for the coming of Christ, not one or the other. He is coming (or has already come in many cases) (1) to our hearts, AND (2) to the world in glory.

Now I would like to make some observations and a proposal regarding the keys of knowledge list.

My observation is that in general list members lean heavily in the direction of the New Age -- mainly the apostate version, that dethrones Jesus Christ as our Savior. This has to do in large measure because of where the list is located -- www.spiritweb.com which web site is archetypal New Age, the full-blown apostate version that is fundamentally, gut-wrenching anti-Christian occultism. No wonder so few from the Western/Christian affinity end up there. They wouldn't get past page one of www.spiritweb.com; and in the rare instance that they do, if they have any conviction at all about Jesus Christ being the Savior (dependent upon our choice to actuate that salvation, so in that regard we are our own saviors as well), then they are soon disenchanted and leave.

My hope and expectation at the time I joined the keys of knowledge list was that J.J. was doing a good job of extracting the best from East and West, including a true understanding that Jesus Christ is indeed our Savior. If you go back to my original introductory post to the list, you will see that this is where I was coming from.

I have it posted at http://www.greaterthings.com/Bio/DeweyIntro.htm. A similar statement that proceeding it by a few days may be found in the first review of "The Immortal" I posted at 

http://www.greaterthings.com/Bookstore/Spirituality/Immortal.htm

I then posted a link to that review to the bottom footer that appears on each of the 1000-some pages at my web site. I removed that link yesterday because of the misgivings I have had about where J.J. seems to be taking things.

Did I over-react? Is J.J. a deceived disciple of apostate New Age philosophy, along with most of the other keys of knowledge list members, or is he one who will "awaken" to the fact that the New Age has its tares too, the most significant being its zealous anti-Jesus Christ as Savior?

If I can be convinced (by reason and Spirit) that J.J. is willing to see this fallacy of the New Age movement, and that he stands as I do on the hope of uniting the best of East and West in Christ (latent Christ in each of us as well as Christ Jesus our savior), then I am with him in this cause that both of us share. But if he is unalterably convinced that Jesus is not our actual Savior, but just a role model, then I will be bidding you farewell.

Perhaps what I am getting at here is exactly what J.J. has said in other words. Indeed, I can call to mind that he does put Jesus in a Savior role, though it varies from the Biblical stance. I'm willing to adopt higher truths, so long as they do not require me to deny the witnesses of the Spirit I have been given thus far.

It seem that what is needed is voluntary purging. Just as I have labored among my Mormon remnant outcasts acquaintances to help awaken people to the fallacies that have been introduced to Mormonism, and have been instrumental in helping to "gather out the wheat;" so also do I think the Lord calls upon all who have ears to hear to carry out a similar awakening among those who affiliate with the New Age movement. Take with you the beautiful truths, but turn away from all the entrapments.

I've posted for your consideration a modified list of "Dangers of the New Age" which I extracted from another site. The theme of this page is that most New Age methodologies for spiritual advancement entail the involvement of demonic powers.

http://www.greaterthings.com/Topical/NewAge.htm

Also, rather than expect that the "Keys of Knowledge" list will conform to my expectations, I have begun a new discussion list and would like to invite any who feel so inclined to join in -- not that I expect full agreement with me, but I am hoping for at least agreement on some fundamental premises (which is hardly the case at the keys of knowledge list along these lines). Information about the list and instructions of how to join are found at

http://www.greaterthings.com/OpenForum/East_West

The name of the list is "Uniting East and West in Christ." It will be an open forum that anyone may join, with a mission statement as follows: "Wheat and tares have together been planted in the Eastern and Western Religious traditions. We seek to gather the ripened wheat -- those nuggets of truth from both traditions -- combining the cognitive left-brain strengths of the Western orthodox with the intuitive right-brain strengths of the Eastern mystical, like man and wife. We recognize the latent God within, but acknowledge our need for God in heaven in order to achieve our full potential. We realize we each are part of the body of Christ, but that we need the gift of salvation offered by Jesus Christ in order overcome all things and become as he is, becoming one with all things."

Any of you who feel so inclined are free to give it a try. I'm sure we will be including in our discussions the teachings of J.J. Dewey, but different from the keys of knowledge list, we will be considering what he says in light of the ideals just mentioned -- and we wont feel like backward Bible thumpers for believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins. We will extract the truths and leave the rest behind.

And maybe, just maybe, we might be able to do it in a spirit of oneness and not of contention, having a more sure foundation upon which to rally.

Sterling

 

click here to see Discussion Group home page: "Uniting East and West in Christ"

 

bullet  See Also:

Dangers of the New Age: Anti-Jesus Christ the Savior
Uniting East and West in Christ -- Discussion Group
The God of the Bible -- A Reply to J.J. Dewey

 

 

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